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You mean down back? :P

I think it's the gameplan in this regard. Players seem very, very hesitant to kick it quickly if they're in trouble, because Bailey's gameplan demands a direct approach out. There seems to be no plan B. No plan B = pressure when there is no available option. How times was the player kicking out struggling for an option? How often has that been the case in 4 years with Bailey? Every week.

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Bartram has some good qualities that I can appreciate, and I think he is a player who attempts to play within his limitations.

I'll be glad if/when we can replace Bartram because it will indicate we're a pretty good side, but I think Bartram is good enough to be a premiership player (have a look at flag sides and you'll be able to pick out players worse than Barty).

Master, you must be kidding - Frawley eats Tarrant alive.

Indeed.

H. Shaw - Grimes: They win this one, but not by much, a lot of Grimes mistakes come under severe pressure

Actually, I think an unusually high percentage of Grimes' mistakes come when he is under little pressure.

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If you read Morton's comment on the Demon website during the week you'll see that Bartram is one of the first players picked each week and he's not gong to get dropped. I think the biggest problem is that there is a lack of commitment and no one wants to take the responsibility of clearing the ball so they each pass it off to each other even if the other player is in a worse position.

I agree RF... they need to somehow get it into their heads to play more by instinct and less by trying to think things through too much; they simply do not have the time for that. Warnock is excellent when it comes to winning the ball but he dithers too much and so undoes all of his good work. These guys need to have it drilled into them that they need to move the ball out of there as quickly as possible; kick it down the guts as far as they can at the earliest possible opportunity... if it comes back, at least it will be from a distance too far for any real damage to be done on the scoreboard.

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