Jump to content

The Cameron Bruce Debacle

Cranky Franky
Cranky Franky
in Melbourne Demons

Featured Replies

This has been done to death.

Maybe we would have asked Junior to go around again but it comes down to what I have been saying for ages (and a few others):

I want a fracking flag!

Someone tell me how Cam Bruce playing in 2011 and 2012 will get us that flag?

And if someone says we are a chance this year or next - you are playing with yourself. You're sitting there in your own little world, masturbating in your mind.

 
  On 25/03/2011 at 09:45, bobby mckenzie said:

Well said cranky. We'll see how our youth policy works without Junior and Cameron. We could have had both this season if not for the so called 'youth policy'. Successful clubs manage to combine youth and experience. We are lacking badly in the latter. Time will tell.

Successfull clubs rebuild off a quality list and culture that's not run down.

We've gone deeper back to the bone, with our list, and had to bottom out to do it. The old list, (excepting Junior) was of the old culture. Greeny has turned himself around, and inside out, improving over the last 3 Years.

Hardly a debacle. Now that the dust has settled im very happy for Bruce to be at the hawks. He has a shot at a flag and he will make them a better team. All he would be doing for us is taking the spot of a youngster.
 

Actually we better hope none of us, or anyone reading this thread, or any young players who may happen to read it Today,,, get a week ahaed of ourselves.

We'd better focus on Sydney, for today...

I can't wait till we play the Hawks.

I've been waiting for years for Bruce to consistently kick it to our players and to put some pressure an our opponents.

Looks like I'll get my wish


  On 25/03/2011 at 20:40, Good Times Grimes said:

Why don't we talk about Brock McLean wanting out to go to Carlton while we're at it.

Or Farmer wanting to go to Freo.

WHO CARES?!

Yeah. And let's have a little chat about this Gerard Healy fellow. And Ron Barassi.

Barassi, Healy, McLean and Bruce all have equal relevance to the MFC playing squad in 2011.

  On 25/03/2011 at 21:56, Nasher said:

Yeah. And let's have a little chat about this Gerard Healy fellow. And Ron Barassi.

Barassi, Healy, McLean and Bruce all have equal relevance to the MFC playing squad in 2011.

And I also hate the way Bruce is lumped together with JMac as if they are tacitly saying that they had a commensurate level of leadership...

In terms of leaders at our club over the past few years, it has been:

Junior.

That is all.

Now we need the next level of leaders to assert themselves and it starts on Sunday.
 

The exit of CB at the end of 2010 will prove a blessing in disguise ( for more than 1 reason).

Other than what has already been discussed, the most notable will be the retention of 1 or more of our young guns over the next 2 years due to relief in salary cap pressure.

Do we want flags from 2013 onwards or to end the seasons 2011 & 2012 in 7th and 5th place ?

Give me a flag or 2 or 3 !!!

I'm happy to wait another couple of years for a serious tilt.

Cam Bruces best chances of a flag was when he himself was a youngster at the Dee's or now with the Dorks, it was the right move for all party's involved- a classic win-win situation imo.

  • Author

Most people are missing the point.

I want to know why our well paid list managers turn up to trading week & draft day without having the current players sorted - that means either signed on the dotted line, traded or delisted.

If CB didn't want to sign it should have been sorted out prior to the draft.


Is it not clear?

CB deceived the football dept to get to his new club on the cheap.

He did what was in the best interests of the hawks, and by proxy, himself.

He had his eye on a move whilst games were still being played.

  On 25/03/2011 at 06:18, Cranky Franky said:

I am generally very happy with the Club but it needs a kick up the rear over the Bruce saga.

We were told the deal was done just a matter of finalising a few minor details. Well the deal was not done & CB walked.

Surely you need to have your list finalised BEFORE the trading period & the draft. There should have been a deadline of signing on well before the draft & trading.

If this had been sorted MAYBE we would have got a small token for releasing CB or MAYBE we would have kept Cheney or MAYBE we would have kept on Junior as insurance for another year.

Sloppy work by the Club. If I did the same thing in my job I would get the sack.

Sounds like someone just got their MFC jumper out of the drawer and realised there was a Number 32 on it.

Nice

  On 26/03/2011 at 01:31, e25 said:

Is it not clear?

CB deceived the football dept to get to his new club on the cheap.

He did what was in the best interests of the hawks, and by proxy, himself.

He had his eye on a move whilst games were still being played.

I tried the diplomatic response.....

I hope what e25 said is now clear enough for you cranky franky, cos it's as clear, true and frank as it gets !

Now lets move on and start fresh with the future on show on Sunday.

  On 26/03/2011 at 01:10, Cranky Franky said:

Most people are missing the point.

I want to know why our well paid list managers turn up to trading week & draft day without having the current players sorted - that means either signed on the dotted line, traded or delisted.

If CB didn't want to sign it should have been sorted out prior to the draft.

What e25 said. In addition, contracts expire Oct 31st. Even after trade week Bailey was confident (publicly) that Bruce would put pen to paper and train as good as he does every pre-season.

This has been discussed many times over and over last year ! The answers should already be in this thread and you can do a search for them in last years threads./


Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

Go to topic listing

Featured Content

  • PREVIEW: Essendon

    As the focus of the AFL moves exclusively to South Australia for Gather Round, the question is raised as to what are we going to get from the  Melbourne Football Club this weekend? Will it be a repeat of the slop fest of the last three weeks that have seen the team score a measly 174 points and concede 310 or will a return to the City of Churches and the scene where they performed at their best in 2024 act as a wakeup call and bring them out of their early season reverie? 
    Or will the sleepy Dees treat their fans to a reenactment of their lazy effort from the first Gather Round of two years ago when they allowed the Bombers to trample all over them on a soggy and wet Adelaide Oval? The two examples from above tell us how fickle form can be in football. Last year, a committed group of players turned up in Adelaide with a businesslike mindset. They had a plan, went in confidently and hard for the football and kicked winning scores against both home teams in a difficult environment for visitors. And they repeated that sort of effort later in the season when they played Essendon at the MCG. Unfortunately, performances like these went against the grain of what Melbourne has been producing from virtually midway through 2024 and extending right through to the present day. This is a game between two clubs who have faltered over the past couple of years because their disposal efficiency is appalling. Neither of them can hit the side of a barn door but history tells us that every once in a while such teams have their lucky days or come up against an opponent in even worse shape and hence, one of them will come up trumps in this match.

    • 0 replies
    Demonland
    Demonland

  • PREGAME: Essendon

    Facing the very real and daunting prospect of starting the season with five straight losses, the Demons head to South Australia for the annual Gather Round, where they’ll take on the Bombers in search of their first win of the year. Who comes in, and who comes out?

      • Like
    • 258 replies
    Demonland
    Demonland

  • NON-MFC: Round 05

    Gather Round is here, kicking off with a Thursday night blockbuster as Adelaide faces Geelong. The Crows will be out for redemption after a controversial loss last week. Saturday starts with the Magpies taking on the Swans. Collingwood will be eager to cement their spot in the top eight, while Sydney is hot on their heels. In the Barossa Valley, two rising sides go head-to-head in a fascinating battle to prove they're the real deal. Later, Carlton and West Coast face off at Adelaide Oval, both desperate to notch their first win of the season. The action then shifts to Norwood, where the undefeated Lions will aim to keep their streak alive against the Bulldogs. Sunday’s games begin in the Barossa with Richmond up against Fremantle. In Norwood, the Saints will be looking to take a scalp when they come up against the Giants. The round concludes with a fiery rematch of last year's semi-final, as the Hawks seek revenge for their narrow loss to Port Adelaide. Who are you tipping this week and what are the best results for the Demons besides us winning?

    • 17 replies
    Demonland
    Demonland

  • CASEY: Geelong

    There was a time in the second quarter of the game at the Cattery on Friday afternoon when the Casey Demons threatened to take the game apart against the Cats. The Demons had been well on top early but were struggling to convert their ascendancy over the ground until Tom Fullarton’s burst of three goals in the space of eight minutes on the way to a five goal haul and his best game for the club since arriving from Brisbane at the end of 2023. He was leading, marking and otherwise giving his opponents a merry dance as Casey grabbed a three goal lead in the blink of an eye. Fullarton has now kicked ten goals in Casey’s three matches and, with Melbourne’s forward conversion woes, he is definitely in with a chance to get his first game with the club in next week’s Gather Round in Adelaide. Despite the tall forward’s efforts - he finished with 19 disposals and eight marks and had four hit outs as back up to Will Verrall in the second half - it wasn’t enough as Geelong reigned in the lead through persistent attacks and eventually clawed their way to the lead early in the last and held it till they achieved the end aim of victory.

    • 0 replies
    Demonland
    Demonland

  • REPORT: Geelong

    I was disappointed to hear Goody say at his post match presser after the team’s 39 point defeat against Geelong that "we're getting high quality entry, just poor execution" because Melbourne’s problems extend far beyond that after its 0 - 4 start to the 2025 football season. There are clearly problems with poor execution, some of which were evident well before the current season and were in play when the Demons met the Cats in early May last year and beat them in a near top-of-the-table clash that saw both sides sitting comfortably in the top four after round eight. Since that game, the Demons’ performances have been positively Third World with only five wins in 19 games with a no longer majestic midfield and a dysfunctional forward line that has become too easy for opposing coaches to counter. This is an area of their game that is currently being played out as if they were all completely panic-stricken.

    • 0 replies
    Demonland
    Demonland

  • NON-MFC: Round 04

    Round 4 kicks off with a blockbuster on Thursday night as traditional rivals Collingwood and Carlton clash at the MCG, with the Magpies looking to assert themselves as early-season contenders and the Blues seeking their first win of the season. Saturday opens with Gold Coast hosting Adelaide, a key test for the Suns as they aim to back up their big win last week, while the Crows will be looking to keep their perfect record intact. Reigning wooden spooners Richmond have the daunting task of facing reigning premiers Brisbane at the ‘G and the Lions will be eager to reaffirm their premiership credentials after a patchy start. Saturday night sees North Melbourne take on Sydney at Marvel Stadium, with the Swans looking to build on their first win of the season last week against a rebuilding Roos outfit. Sunday’s action begins with GWS hosting West Coast at ENGIE Stadium, a game that could get ugly very early for the visitors. Port Adelaide vs St Kilda at Adelaide Oval looms as a interesting clash, with both clubs form being very hard to read. The round wraps up with Fremantle taking on the Western Bulldogs at Optus Stadium in what could be a fierce contest between two sides with top-eight ambitions. Who are you tipping this week and what are the best results for the Demons besides us winning?

      • Like
    • 273 replies
    Demonland
    Demonland
View All