People who know me know how rarely I get stuck into players, and how often I get excited at the merest example of skill, strength etc etc

But this kid has me worried. And it was before his knee injury. I have major concerns about how he'll go in the man's game. I'd say at this stage I'm not expecting anything more than a good flashy player who will struggle with some of the physical stuff, and struggle with finals.

Before anyone jumps down my throat, I will say that this is just guesswork having poured over video footage, and is just an educated guess looking at how he came through the system, his strength and weaknesses etc. I'm a massive supporter of his, and would love him to star as an AFL player. At the same time, I'd be interested to see if anyone shared my reservations.

Sorry Dan but after seeing how he has developed over the past year with only one leg I dont think strengh will be to much of a problem in the future, There are fully devolped men that are playing eg houlihan however you spell it that just cant seem to bulk up, our own mcdonald is another example of a smaller bodied player that has done very well. I think he will become a player similar to Deledio from Richmond just without the sooky attitude and better second efforts. Although I see your point I just think your wrong on this sorry.

By the sounds of the break it's a 2 year injury. I'd be bracing for a setback with this kind of damage.

Just another youngster who hasn't played a game that you can have a go at.

Just another youngster who hasn't played a game that you can have a go at.

Ask Nathan Brown how well he got over his serious leg injury. I stand by my point that this is a serious injury and will take 2 years to fully recover from. Remember first the leg heals, which has taken roughly 8 - 10 months, then the fitness returns, another 3 - 5 months, then match practice and the feeling for the game returns, say 3 -5 months, then the mind forgets about the injury and allows the player to fully commit. I stand by the fact that Blease won't be doing much until at least 2011. As for my remarks over Tapscott, let's just wait and see shall we.

Edited January 2, 201015 yr by Roost It

Hey Axis, Maximum here,

Simply no comment atm.

How about you?

Just sitting back and enjoying your last name, Bob. There's also a sideshow bob out there too. Other than that there's not a heap to comment on.

Although I don't think that we can't just lump all broken legs into the same category. It depends on the type of break, the bones broken and how it has healed. Nathan Brown's break may have hindered him later in his career, however he broke the tibia so I don't think that the injuries can be compared. If someone can give an example of how past players have recovered from fibula breaks then I'd be more interested.

He won't be doing a full preseason this year (due to his recovery), didn't have one last year (due to a modified preseason strengthening program as a bottom age draftee) and would have very little fitness after missing a whole year of running. As such, I would doubt we will see a great deal of him at AFL level in 2010. I assume he will play a few 'developmental' games to give him a taste, but we shouldn't expect any meaningful contribution from him.

Sorry Dan but after seeing how he has developed over the past year with only one leg I dont think strengh will be to much of a problem in the future, There are fully devolped men that are playing eg houlihan however you spell it that just cant seem to bulk up, our own mcdonald is another example of a smaller bodied player that has done very well. I think he will become a player similar to Deledio from Richmond just without the sooky attitude and better second efforts. Although I see your point I just think your wrong on this sorry.

How odd to get a respectful response. I'm all wound up for a barney here... what am I supposed to do now?

Each to their own kegs. I'd dearly love to be proven wrong. Though I will say that I had concerns BEFORE his injury. I just didn't see what gave everyone else a wet dream in the youtube footage. I think he's certainly quick, and flashy, and loves a chasedown... but those things do not a great player make. Davey is great at those things, but those things alone weren't enough to make him as good as he is. And to be honest, Aaron still hasn't proven himself in finals. Sam would want to be a stunning kick to get to that level too...

We'll see I guess.

with arms like he is developing he will be the next cousins, just with the drugs I hope.

Arms like his?

They're still tiny . . .

At best I think you can expect a Nigel Lappin type frame.

There haven't been too many guys in the AFL (if ever) that have the same physique as Benny boy. I mean, even when he's not working out he looks as ripped as everyone else when they ARE working out. Adam McPhee, Barry Hall and Ben Holland are about the only guys I can think of that come/came close

Edited January 3, 201015 yr by Eastie Boyz

Well first of all I meant to say like cousins but without the drugs and second from what he was to how he looks now its a massive change in only 12 months, I think he will bulk up to be a pretty decent size

Ben Holland had the biggest guns in his day, he wasnt the flashest footballer by far but he was a huge mofo

Its not my fault you made a thread when there already was one.

I merely pointed it out. I've no idea what your petty comeback was as its been removed, but I think you'll find the moderator actually made my post irrelevant because they fixed your error and subsequent carry on.

Little do I care.

Little do WE care.. Werent you only going to be here for a week??

How odd to get a respectful response. I'm all wound up for a barney here... what am I supposed to do now?

Each to their own kegs. I'd dearly love to be proven wrong. Though I will say that I had concerns BEFORE his injury. I just didn't see what gave everyone else a wet dream in the youtube footage. I think he's certainly quick, and flashy, and loves a chasedown... but those things do not a great player make.

Really? Youre about the only one.

The fact that NO-ONE could even catch him -and his strengths- disposal: particularly by foot and kicking goals at full tilt, didnt do it for ya huh?

There haven't been too many guys in the AFL (if ever) that have the same physique as Benny boy. I mean, even when he's not working out he looks as ripped as everyone else when they ARE working out. Adam McPhee, Barry Hall and Ben Holland are about the only guys I can think of that come/came close

Mick Conlan would leave everyone for dust imo.

He was a sales rep after his footy finished and one day he came into my mates fathers shoe store for a chat.

As Mick came towards the back of the shop, to chat to my mates dad - we were both sitting there after school hanging out- the poor bugger HAD to turn SIDEWAYS just to make it thru the doorway!! He wouldnt have gotten close otherwise! Our jaws just dropped.. Biggest person ive ever stood next to.

Does anyone remember Conlan in the 1990s at a has-beens state-of-origin type match, at nearly 50 y.o, booting goals from 50 mts out and still almost at an AFL level standard?

Ben Holland had the biggest guns in his day, he wasnt the flashest footballer by far but he was a huge mofo

Understatement of the year!

..i dont think Holland had a huge frame - think it was his training and preparation -apparantly the best at the club- that left him looking so pumped all the time..

Ben Holland, Simon Godfrey and Brad Miller make up the trio of worst footballers Ive personally ever seen.

Shamefully all 3 ending up at MFC at one point or another..

Not to worry tho.. Good times ahead!!

I wasn't saying big as in brute size (otherwise Adam Slater would be close).

I meant more how ripped they are. The guys I mentioned would have next to no muscle fat.

re: Holland. Anyone who stands 196cm and 100kg is a big unit

Hey Eastie Boyz, Adam Slater to play 4th div at Forest Hill in 2010.

Will dominate with his huge size and even at 35+ a good investment.

Muscled no, ability yes, in spades.

As Mick came towards the back of the shop, to chat to my mates dad - we were both sitting there after school hanging out- the poor bugger HAD to turn SIDEWAYS just to make it thru the doorway!! He wouldnt have gotten close otherwise! Our jaws just dropped.. Biggest person ive ever stood next to.

I knew Mick back when he was playing as he was a kneighbor of a best mates parents in Dingley & we spoke & joked around nearly every weekend at the time. He was a well built lad back then & got even bigger later in his career. Are good days they were back then going to the Moorabbin ground weekly & regularly visiting the then VFL Park & giving the parking attendants grief as they chased us through the Car Park as we took our own shortcuts to our carpark of choice. B)

STINGA anyone?

I think in his latter days when he couldn't run he spent all his time in the gym doing arm curls!

Stinga was certainly ripped! Self made muscleman as he was a skinny BMX rider when he arrived at the Dees.

Stinga was certainly ripped! Self made muscleman as he was a skinny BMX rider when he arrived at the Dees.

He wasn't 100% self-made though was he?

Hey Eastie Boyz, Adam Slater to play 4th div at Forest Hill in 2010.

Will dominate with his huge size and even at 35+ a good investment.

Muscled no, ability yes, in spades.

He's definitely not up to Divvy 1 standard anymore, but if Mazin's is anything to go by he'll go alright in 4th