Demons cut Valenti and Buckley

[Dr Jekyl & Mr Hyde 0]

Thanks.

Were you alluding to that Buckley may have been approached by Carlton, and/or walked or wanted to leave after consultation with club (s) during the trade period ? Hence "BINGO"

My understanding is that Brett Ratten has pushed him into walking, similar to CJ, by offering him more game time and a financially more sound offer.

[Nasher 33,187]

I've been doing that for years.

Ditto.

[Guest delicious jurrah coffee]

My understanding is that Brett Ratten has pushed him into walking, similar to CJ, by offering him more game time and a financially more sound offer.

yeah well he got alot of game time this year, somehow i dont think rattens the wonder coach the blues think he is,lets see how he travels without a 90goal a year FF, hes the only coach in the AFL that wanted CJ, let him have buckley.

[Dr Jekyl & Mr Hyde 0]

yeah well he got alot of game time this year, somehow i dont think rattens the wonder coach the blues think he is,lets see how he travels without a 90goal a year FF, hes the only coach in the AFL that wanted CJ, let him have buckley.

In fairness CJ was injured quite a bit this season - but I agree he didnt have the year he would have been hoping for.

Re: Buckley - I would have thought that Carlton had to address more pressing needs than another 188-190 cm player.

Edited October 16, 2009 by Dr Jekyl & Mr Hyde

[Guest delicious jurrah coffee]

In fairness CJ was injured quite a bit this season - but I agree he didnt have the year he would have been hoping for.

well thats 6seasons in a row.

[titan_uranus 22,979]

I find myself skimming threads these days until I find a poster I like and then stop and have a look. Needless to say, I don't read much.

Good to see you read all my posts then...

Seriously, though, isn't that what everyone does?

[Bonkers 918]

My understanding is that Brett Ratten has pushed him into walking, similar to CJ, by offering him more game time and a financially more sound offer.

Buckley grew up supporting the MFC so that would be pretty disappointing if true. If he has been told he isn't a required player by the footy department I don't have a problem with him leaving however. I guess we don't know all the facts at the moment, it will be interesting to see the what comes of this rumor.

[The Backyard Charizard 1,178]

McNamara has signed a new contract.....

I have no details of the length of the contract, but all I can say is "A certain social networking site told me"

[drdrake 3,059]

On Shane Valenti, he has been delisted as we all know, the club has to give him a chance to nominate for the National Draft, if he doesn't get picked up in the National or PSD, are we able to draft him again in the rookie draft? I think we can.

[Prodigal_Son 4]

On Shane Valenti, he has been delisted as we all know, the club has to give him a chance to nominate for the National Draft, if he doesn't get picked up in the National or PSD, are we able to draft him again in the rookie draft? I think we can.

I have wondered about this as well he is 22 but turns 23 next january. I also wondered wether the club is prepared to pay him an amount which would push him through to the rookie draft. Although he only played 6 games this year his stats stack up well against more experienced players. We'll have injuries next year and it would be good to have a ready to go replacement.

[Rhino Richards 1,467]

I have wondered about this as well he is 22 but turns 23 next january. I also wondered wether the club is prepared to pay him an amount which would push him through to the rookie draft. Although he only played 6 games this year his stats stack up well against more experienced players. We'll have injuries next year and it would be good to have a ready to go replacement.

Why would you bother?

If MFC were that enamored with Valenti they would have elevated him last year or this year.

Why sweat over dime a dozen fringe players who have been determined not part of our future?

[Disco Demons 92]

I find myself skimming threads these days until I find a poster I like and then stop and have a look. Needless to say, I don't read much.

that's funny,,,because i find people who have been on here as long as you,,,have polarised views

[Prodigal_Son 4]

Why would you bother?

If MFC were that enamored with Valenti they would have elevated him last year or this year.

Why sweat over dime a dozen fringe players who have been determined not part of our future?

Why would you bother? because you have a player who we know can do a job against 1st pick in the rookie draft in a compromised draft. Because he is only 22 The MFC only has 5 spots at the moment and this is a way of keeping a decent footballer at the club who could be promoted next year when the draft is mega compromised.

"dime a dozen fringe players " Any other insults you want to throw at a guy whose tried his heart out for the MFC?

[Rhino Richards 1,467]

Why would you bother? because you have a player who we know can do a job against 1st pick in the rookie draft in a compromised draft. Because he is only 22 The MFC only has 5 spots at the moment and this is a way of keeping a decent footballer at the club who could be promoted next year when the draft is mega compromised.

"dime a dozen fringe players " Any other insults you want to throw at a guy whose tried his heart out for the MFC?

If he was up to standard they would have elevated him permanently.

"dime a dozen fringe players is a fair assessment of where he is at as player not for the effort he put.

Continue with your fawning of the ordinary.

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

If he was up to standard they would have elevated him permanently.

"dime a dozen fringe players is a fair assessment of where he is at as player not for the effort he put.

Continue with your fawning of the ordinary.

Melbourne should have promoted Valenti last year and not used their last draft pick on Bail. Nothing against Bail, Valenti is just better.

Prodigal_Son is right, you really have no respect for Valenti and take every opportunity you can to kick the guy while he is down.

[The Big Ticket 94]

Melbourne should have promoted Valenti last year and not used their last draft pick on Bail. Nothing against Bail, Valenti is just better.

Prodigal_Son is right, you really have no respect for Valenti and take every opportunity you can to kick the guy while he is down.

Bail's barely played a game yet.

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

Bail's barely played a game yet.

Yes, and Valenti is better than him.

[Keyser Söze 0]

If he was up to standard they would have elevated him permanently.

"dime a dozen fringe players" is a fair assessment of where he is at as player not for the effort he put.

I've got to agree with this post.

Valenti unfortunately for him is a known quantity and he just doesn't meet the physical requirements of AFL, or rather, the good parts of his game aren't good enough to compensate for his shortcomings.

I'd choose to roll the dice on a player like Bail every time.

Endeavour is a great thing, but it will only get you so far in this game.

This might sound really harsh, but does Valenti remind anyone of "Rudy"?

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

I'd choose to roll the dice on a player like Bail every time.

It's an interesting point, however I believe that Valenti has been very much underrated by the club and the gamble with a late draft pick was not worth taking.

[Keyser Söze 0]

It's an interesting point, however I believe that Valenti has been very much underrated by the club and the gamble with a late draft pick was not worth taking.

For how many years now have we had Valenti playing in our VFL team?

I think he does offer the team some good things, but look at the things we might be losing by giving him a position in the midfield.

And he can't play anywhere else on the field.

[beelzebub 22,671]

I think Valenti suffers a bit from being a me-too player in that he's good without brilliance ( at AFL level ) With the likes of Scully and Trengove coming into the middle there becomes less need for another 2nd level midfielder. he offer a bit of depth and thats about it. It will probably be perceived that there is better quality yet to be matured for these positions and so he's expendable.

In time we'll know exactly why Bucks didnt make it. The thing Im wondering is who if anyone will go next friday ? I just have this funny feeling the FD is just watching and waiting on a few before making that final decision. I dont think the axe has been put away just yet as their thinking might be that there is still going to be someone interesting to take at 34 with more upside than some still on the list.

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

I think he does offer the team some good things, but look at the things we might be losing by giving him a position in the midfield.

And he can't play anywhere else on the field.

Valenti offers far more than just "endeavour", his football smarts, awareness, quick hands, good footskills and leadership have been much underrated by many. It's just a shame because he was showing more than McLean in the last half of this year.

[Rhino Richards 1,467]

Valenti offers far more than just "endeavour", his football smarts, awareness, quick hands, good footskills and leadership have been much underrated by many.

And clearly overrated by a few.

It's just a shame because he was showing more than McLean in the last half of this year.

That aint hard. In the last half of the year I did not think McLean did much either.

The Club did well to get 11 for McLean.

Its telling even with McLean going there still is not a spot for Valenti.

[titan_uranus 22,979]

Valenti offers far more than just "endeavour", his football smarts, awareness, quick hands, good footskills and leadership have been much underrated by many. It's just a shame because he was showing more than McLean in the last half of this year.

At VFL level, maybe.

At AFL level, I saw slowness, no awareness, not the best footskills, and little leadership. But a ton of endeavour.

Of course, he only played, what, 15 games. But from those 15 games, I've seen basically nothing of what you've seen. And I'm sure if the FD saw all that, they'd have kept him.

[Guest Rojik of the Arctic]

I guess for me the big question is who we would drop next year so he could get a run and I can't think of anyone. Maybe it was better that he gets a shot in the draft and can maybe get picked up by a club who is overhauling their mids.