Bearing in mind Campbell Brown has a tendency to be a petulant angry little dwarf, I still think Melb should get involved in this deal.

Hawthorn get Burgoyne.

Port get pick 9 and Jamar.

Melb get Brown.

I know we are already weak in the ruck dept. but I really like the dynamic Campbell Brown would add to our young side.

I'm sure he'd choose to stay in Melbourne rather than go to Radelaide.

I'm loathe to lose Jamar, but at the same time I just don't think his scope for improvement beyond where he's at now is that great, in fact, I think he has overachieved in the last year.

Meesen has shown something and should peak perfectly in time with when the rest of our list should.

AND I think we'll end up taking a ruckman in the draft, although James Craig is too short. It needs to be Vardy, Gawn or some other random tall lump of a lad.

And please, if some idiot nominates Majak Daw they will forever lose my internet forum respect (which is a highly sought commodity).

He is a long-shot rookie project at best. Pull your collective bloody heads in.

I CAN!!!!!!!

Proud man being shopped around - he wont go back!!!!

Moving on to an interstate club.

His family is here and loves being where he is.

Would take a lot of convincing.

Deal far from done.

Gee, ain't it awful to see another club looking like it might tear itself to bits.

Moving on to an interstate club.

His family is here and loves being where he is.

Would take a lot of convincing.

Deal far from done.

lots of patchwork to be done if he refuses to go......

Choco playing games??

Kennett has jus refuted the whole Campbell Brown Trade.

Whats the story Michelangelo Rucci?? Another Hack journalist????

I'd like to be optimistic and think that Harrington has leaked this to the press...

tomorrow he'll leak that Port are trading Burgoyne & Boak for pick 9 & Simon Taylor...

Kennett has jus refuted the whole Campbell Brown Trade.

Whats the story Michelangelo Rucci?? Another Hack journalist????

Here it is:

Kennett has spoken - but this time he checked with the Footy Department first: -

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/port...f-1225783738449

I'd like to be optimistic and think that Harrington has leaked this to the press...

tomorrow he'll leak that Port are trading Burgoyne & Boak for pick 9 & Simon Taylor...

Ha. Onya Harrington.

What else can we report....Davey, Burgoyne & Bailey went Ten-Pin bowling together....what a hoot!

Apparently Hawthorn are fed up with Williams proposing completely unrealistic trades. Birchall + Brown + 9 was the final straw. Now that Kennett has stated Hawthorn's preference is to keep ALL premiership players I can't see Shaun getting there. The stalemate just got a whole lot more stale.

Apparently Hawthorn are fed up with Williams proposing completely unrealistic trades. Birchall + Brown + 9 was the final straw. Now that Kennett has stated Hawthorn's preference is to keep ALL premiership players I can't see Shaun getting there. The stalemate just got a whole lot more stale.

I think these clubs could do with a cooling off period for a couple of days, plus an hour or so, in relation to Burgoyne. Shaun, nominate for the PSD.

Apparently Hawthorn are fed up with Williams proposing completely unrealistic trades. Birchall + Brown + 9 was the final straw. Now that Kennett has stated Hawthorn's preference is to keep ALL premiership players I can't see Shaun getting there. The stalemate just got a whole lot more stale.

Its a token claim, the premiership players one.

Kennett would trade Burgoyne for Renouf before Choco could even get the words out.

Moving on to an interstate club.

His family is here and loves being where he is.

Would take a lot of convincing.

Deal far from done.

Agree.

Losts of water (and blood) still to flow on this one.

Good, I was beginning to think I was the only one that thought that way. I also agree there'll be some massive blowback from Hawks supporters. They can join the Fev supporters at Princess Park

Count me in on that count.

Looks like a little storm at Hawthorn. Beautiful.

The latest from Kennett on hearing Choco's deal for Burgoyne with Campbell Brown: -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xgnD36M7-E&NR=1

Port have a history of being far too greedy when players want out. I can't see either party backing down. If I were a Hawk fan I would be more inclined to want Hawthorn throwing the kitchen sink at Jolly, not Burgoyne.

This is like a top quality soap opera. So bad, yet you can't look away.

Love it!

Edit: Fixed it now HT! :D

Port have a history of being far too greedy when players want out. I can't see either party backing down. If I were a Hawk fan I would be more inclined to want Hawthorn throwing the kitchen sink at Jolly, not Burgoyne.

I think this may be a concerted effort by Port, not to set a precedent for other clubs to really bring a good deal to the table (because that will never happen), but to earn a reputation of being impossible to deal with in a trade.

This will therefore make players think 10 times harder before asking for a trade, if they know there is little chance of the club accommodating their wishes.

Adelaide is a crap place, Port is a feral club and they know players don't want to be there, but if they foster an attitude amongst the players of "Oh well, I'm stuck here so better make the best of it", it may somewhat eliminate the mythical power of the "go home factor"...

Just a thought...

This is like a top quality soup opera. So bad, yet you can't look away.

Love it!

Is that the Tomato, Chicken noodle or Potato & Leek kind?

If the trade can't be agreed Burgoyne just goes into the ND with 4 years x $600K and the Hawks pick him up with 9 and Port gets nothing. There's a small risk another club may jump in but realistically no club is going to use an early first rounder on an expensive player who doesn't want to be there. Port is over a barrel. The PSD to us is 100-1.

Choco playing games??

"But Kennett said the Hawks were not prepared to part with their hardbut defender"

I lol'd

If the trade can't be agreed Burgoyne just goes into the ND with 4 years x $600K and the Hawks pick him up with 9 and Port gets nothing. There's a small risk another club may jump in but realistically no club is going to use an early first rounder on an expensive player who doesn't want to be there. Port is over a barrel. The PSD to us is 100-1.

that all sounds good till we get down to one tiny little detail. Hawthorn don't have 600k to spend on a player

that all sounds good till we get down to one tiny little detail. Hawthorn don't have 600k to spend on a player

Yeah, i think a couple of clubs would jump at getting Burgoyne at a reduced price in what they might see as a weak draft.

If the trade can't be agreed Burgoyne just goes into the ND with 4 years x $600K and the Hawks pick him up with 9 and Port gets nothing.

I thought it was only the PSD that a player could negotiate terms?

that all sounds good till we get down to one tiny little detail. Hawthorn don't have 600k to spend on a player

600K to import a player while the likes of Hodge, Franklin others encouraged to stay together at a reduced rate. Tough sell to the Hawks players.

At 450K Swans (Swans got heaps in the cap anyway) might have a close look at 6 considering they'll get a first rounder back for Jolly.

We'll move up a spot in the draft if there's no deal.

I thought it was only the PSD that a player could negotiate terms?

Used to be but it changed last year.

Kennett "misinformed" - I guess it would have been a bit rich even for Whorethorn if Pelchen had come out and said Brown was never on the table. Kennett probably didn't know - if they had any sense they'd keep him right out of the loop.

Port still over the same barrell.