Melbourne to have new home in Docklands

[Jaded No More 68,974]

Is Docklands still a s&%#hole? If so, they'd want to make it a good price.

Docklands will become significantly less [censored] when this redevelopment is complete. The idea is not to build a stadium in isolation, but to incorporate it into a new neighborhood if you'd like, which is being planned for the area (another opportunity for Melbourne in terms of community growth perhaps). At around $4 million a pop for water-frontage property, the word shithole just won't be applicable anymore.

[beelzebub 23,383]

at 4 mill a pop the place will be a Versace Bidet !!!

[beelzebub 23,383]

What they are proposing is a little like the Wees & Poos have at Waverley...just without the big stand. It will have associated facilities, profesional suites etc. and hopefully a decent cafe so the boys can continue with their Skinny Lattes !!

[Supreme_Demon 3,903]

I'm quite pleasantly surprised by the comments from Melbourne Mayor Robert Doyle (he is a Cats supporter I think?).

If the Demons can have a PERMANENT training ground (during the Winter) that we can use at the Docklands which is the SAME size as the MCG then that would be fantastic!

Here is the link to the article: http://melbourne-leader.whereilive.com.au/...docklands-home/

Personally I would just call the local community team the Dockland Demons to continue the Melbourne connection. No point calling them the Dragons!

[Jack7 528]

I'm all for this,having a summer base out at Casey where there are 29,000 kids that we need to tap into and a winter base in the heart of Melbourne with state of the art training and recovery facilities.

What are our contractual obligations at Olympic Park?

Further away from Collingwood the better!

[H_T 3,049]

What are our contractual obligations at Olympic Park?

5 year roll over contract, isn't it?

[titan_uranus 25,046]

Also, I heard Demetriou say today that he and the AFL are in support of the idea, and that they will provide some funding (as they do for any club with a building project like this) if it goes ahead.

[rpfc 28,816]

5 year roll over contract, isn't it?

That sounds like a guess to me.

Someone find out.

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

Casey will be a year-round commitment, only it will be used more frequently in the Summer.

It is crucial for the growth of the club.

[do it 4 robbie 1]

The New Quay Project Precint... in the shadows of that bridge;)

Is that right

It could also be on the land opposite the wheel, where the rail yards/infrastructure is. I work there and know we have to move as it`s being developed in a few years. Also right next to Nth Melb station - ideal spot.

[H_T 3,049]

This was raised by Cameron Schwab earlier this year as our own version of Lexus/Waverley. We'd train once a week at Casey (as in the Agreement) but have our own centre where we'd train at all other times, and build a social club etc. This is why the Bubbledome agreement is on a rolling five year basis. In 5 years time the Docklands will be build and we'll be in.

This is not a proposition for playing home games anywhere other than the G.

5 year roll over contract, isn't it?

That sounds like a guess to me.

Someone find out.

Done. No guess.

[spurs-r-us 0]

so would this be like our punt road. decorated in red and blue and the such

[rpfc 28,816]

Done. No guess.

So we spent a million bucks for 5 years?

This nonsense has to stop, and hopefully someone can get our cheque back.

[H_T 3,049]

So we spent a million bucks for 5 years?

This nonsense has to stop, and hopefully someone can get our cheque back.

I could be wrong but I believe it might have been the previous administration that signed. I think Mfc tried to backtrack through Schwab (new admin), however the agreement was in place.

Check threads on stadium deals/Bubbledome - it was discussed this time last year.

[demon3165 2,808]

I could be wrong but I believe it might have been the previous administration that signed. I think Mfc tried to backtrack through Schwab (new admin), however the agreement was in place.

Check threads on stadium deals/Bubbledome - it was discussed this time last year.

You are correct Tower on this issue, and we only signed on for 5 years with an option for another 5 but what I find amazing is how fast this club is moving on long and short term agenda's if we end up at the docklands in 5 years time we will indeed have the the best of both worlds with elite training facilities within the state, I believe this club will no longer be laughed at by the AFL or other clubs in the next few years and how sweet it will be.

[e25 5]

So we spent a million bucks for 5 years?

This nonsense has to stop, and hopefully someone can get our cheque back.

What???!?

Are you serious? How much do you think rent would cost for that sort of setup anywhere else?

$200K per year isn't really that bad at all

[rpfc 28,816]

What???!?

Are you serious? How much do you think rent would cost for that sort of setup anywhere else?

$200K per year isn't really that bad at all

You think that is a good deal?!

That's not including rent.

That was the setup cost that we provided for a facility we look like spending 5 years in, and the FD only in winter.

I believe it's the final mil of the debt we are trying to get rid of...

[e25 5]

You think that is a good deal?!

That's not including rent.

That was the setup cost that we provided for a facility we look like spending 5 years in, and the FD only in winter.

I believe it's the final mil of the debt we are trying to get rid of...

You sure its not including rent? I think it is.

And if it is then its perfectly fair.

[H_T 3,049]

You are correct Tower on this issue, and we only signed on for 5 years with an option for another 5 but what I find amazing is how fast this club is moving on long and short term agenda's if we end up at the docklands in 5 years time we will indeed have the the best of both worlds with elite training facilities within the state, I believe this club will no longer be laughed at by the AFL or other clubs in the next few years and how sweet it will be.

Yeah I agree.

However, I will believe it when I see it - and when it's all done. It's been far too long. It will be 'sweet', but I'm not one for celebrating just yet, until it's complete and our players can indulge themselves in high performance development under their own "very" state-of-the-art facility and under their own roof.

At the moment there is only initial or preliminary discussion coming from Robert Doyle.

[John Dee 445]

The MOPT development is fine in the short term, however there is not enough room already for the complete MFC staff roster. There will inevitably be a Melbourne Rugby Union team playing in the Super Whatever and they will require space in the MOPT. The State government and the City Council can see that the users of the new rectangular stadium should be the ones in the MOPT development. We committed to the development as a condition of its getting of the ground and must take residence there or pay a prohibitive fine. If the AFL, the State government and the City Council have to build a new facility to free up the space we are occupying, great. If they want us to move somewhere before the new facility is ready, we are in a very good bargaining position; possession is nine tenths of the law.

[rpfc 28,816]

You sure its not including rent? I think it is.

And if it is then its perfectly fair.

It was our contribution to getting the bloody thing built. Rent has nothing to do with it, we are not going to be allowed to reside in there without paying rent.

$1m.

I can't believe the MFC heirarchy would be as blase about $1m as you seem to be.

This Docklands nonsense is pie-in-the-sky rubbish from Doyle, let's get out of the Junction and into MOPT/Casey and then deal with the Docklands when/if it happens.

[e25 5]

It was our contribution to getting the bloody thing built. Rent has nothing to do with it, we are not going to be allowed to reside in there without paying rent.

$1m.

I can't believe the MFC heirarchy would be as blase about $1m as you seem to be.

This Docklands nonsense is pie-in-the-sky rubbish from Doyle, let's get out of the Junction and into MOPT/Casey and then deal with the Docklands when/if it happens.

Are you sure? Can you provide a link or reference? I'd be interested to know.

And if the Docklands project is just pie-in-the-sky rubbish then why is the $1m such an issue? Obviously if this is the case we'll stay at MRS and the cost will be justified... if not, well, Doyle is proposing it'd be free to us anyway.

$1m is a small price to pay to finally upgrade our training facilities.

[beelzebub 23,383]

Bubbledome..(MOPT ) is simply inadequate and a poor compromise going forward. What we were to have and whatwe now get are two different things.

Youd be a mug not to consider a better option if placed on the table.

I too would like prof thatwe contributed anything to Bubbledome. As I remember it was the State Gov and its various departmental incarnations that funded this. Happy to be swayed.

[sideshowbob 0]

There will inevitably be a Melbourne Rugby Union team playing in the Super Whatever and they will require space in the MOPT. The State government and the City Council can see that the users of the new rectangular stadium should be the ones in the MOPT development.

Don't be so sure about that. The Australian Rugby Union are doing their absolute best to stuff this up at the moment!

[rpfc 28,816]

No, you're right. It's only our money that we gave to the club to invest in the future of the club. Who knew the future could be 5 years? Better start living...

About two-thirds down the page and...

...we paid for our part of MOPT. It was $800k at the start of last season, with an eye to $1.8m...

The Red and Blue Foundation was setup to help the club invest in facilities that would help the club and its players improve.

Will we raise the money for the Docklands adventure?

Personally, I can't wait to give more money for temporary training bases, because I am a poor investor.

Here is this same thread, except substitute Docklands for MOPT

Edited September 8, 2009 by rpfc