Judging by Barry Prendergasts comments in the Herald Sun (an insight into the demons decision making process), he mentioned that Bailey was disappointed we didn't pick up a competitive inside ball winner then I wouldn't be suprised if that was high on there wish list come PSD.

A tall forward must be at least looked at thoroughly imo

The full list of players permitted to train with AFL clubs:

Adelaide Ricky Henderson (Trentham)

Brisbane Lions Daniel Dzufer (Brisbane Lions) Phillip Smith (Brisbane Lions) Adam Spackman (Brisbane Lions rookie) Joel Tippett (Brisbane Lions)

Carlton Greg Bentley (Port Adelaide) Lachie Hill (Carlton rookie list) Sam Jacobs (Carlton rookie list) Darren Pfeiffer (Carlton) Chris Johnson (Melbourne)

Collingwood Bryce Carrol (Western Jets) Michael Gugliotta (Northern Territory) Toby Thoolen (Collingwood)

Essendon Stuart Crameri (Bendigo Bombers) Hayden Skipworth (Bendigo Bombers)

Fremantle Chris Smith (Fremantle)

Geelong Nil

Hawthorn Nathan Batsanis (Box Hill Hawks) Jeff Garlett (Swan Districts) Kane Goodwin (Perth) Alex Grima (Hawthorn) Haydn Kiel (Brisbane Lions) Ben Kennedy (Sandringham Dragons) Lukas Markovic (Box Hill Hawks) Riley Milne (Murray Bushrangers) Gary Moss (Hawthorn) Cameron Pederson (Box Hill Hawks) Hugh Sandilands (Hawthorn) Ben Smithwick (Box Hill Hawks) Matthew Suckling (Hawthorn) Rhys O'Sullivan (Box Hill Hawks) Clancee Pearce (Swan Districts) Charlie Sharples (Sturt) Thomas Warby (Box Hill Hawks)

Melbourne Tristan Francis (Gippsland Power) Daniel Hughes (Melbourne rookie 2007) Jordie McKenzie (Geelong Falcons) Sam O'Sullivan (Oakleigh Chargers) Dylan Ross (Claremont) Shane Tregear (Sandringham) Marcus White (Calder Cannons)

North Melbourne Alan Obst (North Melbourne)

Port Adelaide Kory Beard (Port Adelaide Magpies) Daniel Caire (West Adelaide) Josh Carr (Fremantle) Tom Holmes (Glenelg) Gavin Hughes (Western Bulldogs) Andrew Lee (Essendon) Charlie McAdam (North Adelaide) Matthew Martin (West Adelaide) Danny Meyer (Richmond) Brayden O’Hara (Central District) Chris Schmidt (Brisbane Lions) Ben Speight (Norwood) Daniel Stewart (North Adelaide) Wade Thompson (North Adelaide)

Richmond Andrew Browne (Murray Bushrangers) David Gourdis (Richmond) Kade Klemke (Murray Bushrangers) Nick Liddle (Coburg) Patrick Nicholls (St Bedes) Matt Suckling (Sandringham Dragons) Justin Van Unen (Oakleigh Chargers) Bryn Weadon (North Ballarat)

St Kilda Steven Gaertner (Dandenong Stingrays) Brad Howard (St Kilda) Sam Iles (Collingwood) Halen Kay (Gippsland Power) Luke Stanton (Northern Knights) Tommy Walsh (County Kerry Ireland)

Sydney Swans Aaron Bruce (Sydney Swans) Peter Faulks (Sydney Swans) Kristin Thornton (Sydney Swans)

West Coast Nil

Western Bulldogs Liam Picken (Williamstown)

Surely Rockliff & Sibosado are both training somewhere...

Surely Rockliff & Sibosado are both training somewhere...

The psd/rookie drafts are only a week away, so maybe the players have been told to lay low for a week with the promise of being selected by a particular club.

I'd also presume that we are not interested in either player for the psd, otherwise it would make no sense not to have them training with us as early as possible.

The psd/rookie drafts are only a week away, so maybe the players have been told to lay low for a week with the promise of being selected by a particular club.

I'd also presume that we are not interested in either player for the psd, otherwise it would make no sense not to have them training with us as early as possible.

Yeah, I considered both of those things... But surely clubs have already made up their minds, or are close to it, so laying low is kinda pointless...

Can't say i think you're wrong on either count though.

Rockliff was invited to train with Port. Turned it down apparently. Theres a rumour that Chocco Williams gave him some criticism about not getting a good test result in the 3k run at draft camp, Rockliff then cried. (Bigfoory Rumour, so probably full of sh!t)

IMO if you bring a kid over from WA pay his flights and put him up there is a very good chance you will pick him up, whether as a rookie or PSD, expect Dylan Ross to be on our list in some capacity in 2009.

Francis goes alright, good effort player but he also has a bit of poise and moves well, would be a very good rookie pick up, but again not the size that many are clamouring for.

Recruiting has improved but it's still not an exact science. People have memories like goldfish around here. Flash was a rookie a few short years ago, he's now the face of our marketing. Steph Martin has me as excited as any of last years pickups, still fools claim if you weren't picked in the national draft, you're no good. Bail has been passed over 6 or 9 times in drafts and yet because he was picked in the ND this year he's ahead of everybody who wasn't . Meesen was a top 10 pick ( I think) a few years ago. As Jack Watts said, right now he's on even footing with everyone else drafted this year, it's what happens after you make a list that matters.

I expect each of our 1st 3 picks in the ND to be a very good player, we're doing well if we get a very good player every 3rd PSD/RD. That 9x the hit rate.

The full list of players permitted to train with AFL clubs

How come Chop Chop isn't on the list for St Kilda?

Because he has probably stopped training... St Kilda don't have a pick in the PSD and he can't be rookied so no point training with them.... Gee Hawthorn always seem to have heaps training with them

How come Chop Chop isnt on the list for St Kilda?

They have no PSD pick and he is too old to be rookied.

How come Chop Chop isn't on the list for St Kilda?

Because St. Kilda gave him the chop chop.