Skip to content
View in the app

A better way to browse. Learn more.

Demonland

A full-screen app on your home screen with push notifications, badges and more.

To install this app on iOS and iPadOS
  1. Tap the Share icon in Safari
  2. Scroll the menu and tap Add to Home Screen.
  3. Tap Add in the top-right corner.
To install this app on Android
  1. Tap the 3-dot menu (⋮) in the top-right corner of the browser.
  2. Tap Add to Home screen or Install app.
  3. Confirm by tapping Install.

Anyone for cricket?

Featured Replies

I've been away for the weekend so I've just caught up on the past few days' happenings.

The Broad decision is a disgrace from most parties. Firstly, Dar should have paid it out. I struggle to think of what he must have thought happened - off Haddin's gloves? I don't get it. Second, Clarke will hopefully have learnt his lesson - stop reviewing marginal LBW decisions and retain the reviews for the howlers. The referral of the LBW call going down leg was pathetic. Finally, Broad. It happens all the time, batsmen choosing not to walk when they're clearly out and waiting for the umpire. But I've never seen someone edge the ball to slip and pretend it didn't happen. When it's to the keeper and it's a straight line and/or a faint edge, I can understand a player using the doubt to hide. But there was no doubt with that.

We've been pretty good in this Test, except for all four evening sessions. After tea on Day 1 we lost 4 wickets. After tea on Day 2 we let Cook and Pietersen cruise. After tea on Day 3 we let Bell and Broad cruise. After tea on Day 4 we lost 4 wickets. It's killing us. This Test is still winnable, but we need Haddin to be mature and play the guiding knock that Hughes played in the first innings. All of Agar, Siddle, Pattinson and Starc can bat. A useful 10-30 runs from each, maybe with one pushing closer to 50, and with Haddin batting through at the other end, and we're not out of it.

Still plenty of problems, though. Cowan's not good enough, neither Smith nor Hughes have the techniques to be consistently good players, Watson's horrendously over-rated (he averages 35, two centuries ever and hasn't hit one for 3 years), and Clarke's out of form and injured. It's not a great batting line-up.

 

I've been away for the weekend so I've just caught up on the past few days' happenings.

The Broad decision is a disgrace from most parties. Firstly, Dar should have paid it out. I struggle to think of what he must have thought happened - off Haddin's gloves? I don't get it. Second, Clarke will hopefully have learnt his lesson - stop reviewing marginal LBW decisions and retain the reviews for the howlers. The referral of the LBW call going down leg was pathetic. Finally, Broad. It happens all the time, batsmen choosing not to walk when they're clearly out and waiting for the umpire. But I've never seen someone edge the ball to slip and pretend it didn't happen. When it's to the keeper and it's a straight line and/or a faint edge, I can understand a player using the doubt to hide. But there was no doubt with that.

We've been pretty good in this Test, except for all four evening sessions. After tea on Day 1 we lost 4 wickets. After tea on Day 2 we let Cook and Pietersen cruise. After tea on Day 3 we let Bell and Broad cruise. After tea on Day 4 we lost 4 wickets. It's killing us. This Test is still winnable, but we need Haddin to be mature and play the guiding knock that Hughes played in the first innings. All of Agar, Siddle, Pattinson and Starc can bat. A useful 10-30 runs from each, maybe with one pushing closer to 50, and with Haddin batting through at the other end, and we're not out of it.

Still plenty of problems, though. Cowan's not good enough, neither Smith nor Hughes have the techniques to be consistently good players, Watson's horrendously over-rated (he averages 35, two centuries ever and hasn't hit one for 3 years), and Clarke's out of form and injured. It's not a great batting line-up.

Agree on all counts with that post TU.

As you said, even though both Hughes and Smith both had a good innings each in this test, you do wonder whether they have the ability at the highest level, they're worth persisting with for now until the likes of Burns, Khawaja, Maddinson and co tart demanding a spot.

I agree re: Cowan, after having been given a good run it looks as though he's just not up to it. I'd be happy enough for him to play the Lords test, but if he fails there again as I suspect he will, you'd have to bring one of Khawaja or Warner in for him.

And this test looks like it's going down to the wire again with another brave last wicket stand, this time with Haddin & Pattinson. Although I'm starting to have flashbacks of Lee & Kasporwicz at Edgebaston 2005! :unsure:

 

Can already say, no matter the result from here, well done Australia for the highest ever 4th Innings score at Trent Bridge. Love the fight we've shown!

Edited by Tall Defence

Surely Stuart Broad should be fined after this test for not playing in the spirit of the game, if that's even an option of the match referee?

First the not walking incident, then the blatant slow over approaching lunch to try and get the team off the field so they can re-group. This guy is a dead set [censored]!


Australian Cricket - no batsmen, no worries! The tail enders might get it done.

Surely Stuart Broad should be fined after this test for not playing in the spirit of the game, if that's even an option of the match referee?

First the not walking incident, then the blatant slow over approaching lunch to try and get the team off the field so they can re-group. This guy is a dead set [censored]!

Absolute [censored]

Lunch on Day 5



England 1st Innings 215



J. Trott 48



P. Siddle 5/50 (14)



Australia 1st Innings 280



A. Agar 98



J. Anderson 5/85 (24)



England 2nd Innings 375



I. Bell 109



M. Starc 3/81 (32)



Australia 2nd Innings 9/291 (Target 311)



B. Haddin 69*



J. Anderson 4/73 (30)



This is just an amazing game. Who knows which way it will go? But well done Haddin & Pattinson for this amazing fight back. Just think if Broad was given out we'd of won by now!


 

Australian Cricket - no batsmen, no worries! The tail enders might get it done.

Drop the top order for more All-rounders!

Flashbacks of 2005!


And that's why you save your reviews.

That's it.

England 1st Innings 215

J. Trott 48

P. Siddle 5/50 (14)

Australia 1st Innings 280

A. Agar 98

J. Anderson 5/85 (24)

England 2nd Innings 375

I. Bell 109

M. Starc 3/81 (32)

Australia 2nd Innings 296 (Target 311)

B. Haddin 71

J. Anderson 5/73 (31.4)

What can you say, but it had to end with DRS didn't it! Wouldn't be suprised if Australia opt out of DRS after this match.

Great effort Australia and you've shown more fight then England ever did from 1989 - 2004.

Lords starts on Thursday night nowm and if there's one change I'd make funily enough it wouldn't be any of the batsmen, but Jackson Bird must play at Lords! Bowl him from Glenn McGrath end where he bowled down that slop bowling line and length and wrecked havoc. Bird's our modern day McGrath so I'd take a horses for course approach (not rotation) and bring Bird in for one of Pattinson or Starc.

Edited by Tall Defence


Could you say, conclusively, that he hit it? It's a bad way to end a great match.

It's shocking.

In my opinion, the downsides and drawbacks of the DRS system far outweigh the benefits it brings.

He probably hit it, but could you overturn the umpire's decision based on the evidence? It's not about the balance of probability, hence why Hawk-eye has an 'umpire's call' option.

However, I've seen worse. It's a shame that such a great game ends like that, because it takes away from the match itself.

Worst Aussie inventions ever. Snicko and Hot-spot.


I think he hit it, but the evidence was inconclusive. The hot spot potentially only showed up after the ball passed the bat (it was inconclusive FFS!). The sound was there, sure, and probably was bat hitting ball, but with no deflection, it only gets to the likelihood, not the conclusiveness, of Dar making an error.

In the end, Erasmus should have told Dar that the evidence was inconclusive, and Dar should have stuck to his original not-out call. The end result may have been the right one, but it wasn't produced for the right reasons.

All in all, a sad way to end a great Test which unfortunately has been marred by poor umpiring and the DRS.

As for changes, Cowan was ill apparently, so give him another Test before making the switch. Harris/Bird would be handy, but who gets dropped? Starc to me was the worst of the three bowlers. I'd leave them be, though.

And, Clarke needs to learn to stop using referrals on 50-50 LBW decisions.

Titan-as flawed as the DRS is,especially as something like the Broad decision occurred , just shows that England used theirs much more wisely.

The Captaincy basically cost us the test because we fluffed our appeals.

Bird should be in the next test-very hard to score against and will get LBWs.

I think Haddin was probably out. Game effort by the Aussies but our top 6 need to churn out a lot more runs. Only 3 half centuries out of 12 at bats from the top 6 (and no centuries) That's not going to win you many Test matches.

Hughes, Haddin and Agar made valuable contributions with the bat but we needed a lot more from the others. The bowlers all did reasonably well. We didn't play that well but we nearly pinched the match. We'll need to play a lot better at Lords if we're going to win.

Cowan out for Khawaja is a possibility but I think it might be an unchanged side (unless one of the quicks doesn't come up)

 

Lords starts on Thursday night nowm and if there's one change I'd make funily enough it wouldn't be any of the batsmen, but Jackson Bird must play at Lords! Bowl him from Glenn McGrath end where he bowled down that slop bowling line and length and wrecked havoc. Bird's our modern day McGrath so I'd take a horses for course approach (not rotation) and bring Bird in for one of Pattinson or Starc.

Looks like Malcolm Conn and I think alike.

http://www.foxsports.com.au/cricket/the-ashes/jackson-bird-could-replace-mitchell-starc-for-australia-in-second-ashes-test-at-lords/story-e6frf3gl-1226679366919

Don't know if the two of us thinking alike is a good thing or a bad thing? I guess as long as I avoid David Warner I'll say good thing.

Edit: Spelling

Edited by Tall Defence

Titan-as flawed as the DRS is,especially as something like the Broad decision occurred , just shows that England used theirs much more wisely.

The Captaincy basically cost us the test because we fluffed our appeals.

Bird should be in the next test-very hard to score against and will get LBWs.

you must keep in mind that our skipper is considered by many to be a TWIT

also DRS is 100% rubbish and all experts agree on this

worst part of the game was the ineptitude of the umpire to say anything to the English captain about over rates,i was very shocked to see a conversation between skipper and bowler mid over and it continually happened with no interruption from either the umpire or the senior australian batsmen BH, he should of approached the umpire and requested intervention, also it seems drinks breaks are not needed any more.


Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Unfortunately, your content contains terms that we do not allow. Please edit your content to remove the highlighted words below.
Reply to this topic...

Featured Content

  • NON-MFC: 2026 Opening Round

    Finally the 2026 AFL Premiership Season is upon us. While Melbourne sits out Opening Round, there is still plenty of footy to enjoy with five non-MFC clashes to kick off the new season. It all begins on Thursday night with a blockbuster at the SCG as Sydney hosts Carlton in what should be a strong early test for both sides. On Friday night, Gold Coast gets its chance to open the season in front of a home crowd when the Suns and Christian Petracca take on Geelong at People First Stadium. Saturday features a double-header, starting in the afternoon with Greater Western Sydney and Clayton Oliver meeting the Hawks at Engie Stadium. That is followed on Saturday night by Brisbane Lions hosting the Western Bulldogs at the Gabba, with the Lions embarking on their campaign to win the Threepeat. Opening Round wraps up on Sunday night at the MCG, where St Kilda takes on Collingwood in the only game in town in the first week of the season. There is no shortage of storylines across the round, so discuss all the action from the non-MFC games of Opening Round.

    • 41 replies
  • PREGAME: St. Kilda

    With just over two weeks until their opening match of the 2026 AFL Premiership season, the Demons are already well on the path to redemption and have the Saints firmly in their sights ahead of their mid-March clash at the MCG. What do you think the team will look like when they run out on to the G?

      • Thumb Down
      • Like
    • 118 replies
  • REPORT: Richmond

    Mars is not usually a place known for lighting strikes but on Friday evening it happened twice in the vicinity of the stadium in Ballarat that carries the name and is a half completed building site with limited capacity for spectators.

    • 4 replies
  • POSTGAME: Richmond

    The Dees ran another clinic for the second week in a row as they easily accounted for the Tigers in the lightning interrupted shortened match at Mars Stadium in Ballarat.

      • Clap
      • Thanks
      • Like
    • 118 replies
  • VOTES: Richmond

    Kozzy Pickett was the man of the match last week and has a vote lead over backup ruck Max Heath who didn't play this week and 5 votes over former Saint Jack Steele. Who gets the votes in this weeks shortened match win over the Tigers? Your votes please. 6, 5, 4, 3, 2 & 1.

      • Like
    • 15 replies
  • GAMEDAY: Richmond

    It's Game Day and the 2026 AFL Premiership season is almost upon us as the Demons take to the field for their final practice match before the first ball is kicked in anger in 16 days time. What are you expecting to see from the Dees today as they take on the Tigers at Mars Stadium in Ballarat?

      • Thanks
      • Like
    • 337 replies

Account

Navigation

Search

Search

Configure browser push notifications

Chrome (Android)
  1. Tap the lock icon next to the address bar.
  2. Tap Permissions → Notifications.
  3. Adjust your preference.
Chrome (Desktop)
  1. Click the padlock icon in the address bar.
  2. Select Site settings.
  3. Find Notifications and adjust your preference.