I really pray we don't draft Naitanui,

Stupid, stupid comment Jack my boy

Naitanui will dominate the AFL for a decade

PRAY he's wearing Red & Blue

& Yes I was @ the game on Wednesday & watched all players closely.

Simply we can't lose, Rich , Watts , Natanui will all be stars

Old Man Rivers,let me teach you a lesson young fella

An opinion,whether right or wrong,is not a STUPID COMMENT,it's an OPINION.

There you go,now you're a bit smarter than you were yesterday.

I'd say an opinion can be stupid, but not wrong or right

Old Man Rivers,let me teach you a lesson young fella

An opinion,whether right or wrong,is not a STUPID COMMENT,it's an OPINION.

There you go,now you're a bit smarter than you were yesterday.

Now Jack my Lad

Sorry if I offended your Stupid opinion & you felt the need to SHOUT

Hopefully a few frothies will help you relax tonight & you never know you might even get lucky

i've only seen watts play twice...and if we pick him up, we will officially have no key position talent coming through for the next 5 years because of the gold coast concessions. And some people talked about rich fading out in the 3rd quarter, yet watts never faded because he never got into the game. i think after 1/4 time he had 2 touches.

Some people are adept at spotting great talent and others aren't. Watts is rated by the experts for a reason. The fact that you fail to see the upside and pedigree is of no concern to those that can.

And don't feel bad about it. It's ok.

As I said I have not seen him play but from what I have seen a measly 15 second clip on youtube he didn't strike me as having the physique to build a kpp player out of.

Why do you find him so exciting?

If you could compare him to one AFL player whow ould it be?

James Hird in Riewoldt's body

James Hird in Riewoldt's body

I'm slowly beginning to warm to you, Boi.

Reminds me more of Luke Molan in Nathan Abletts body.

Reminds me more of Luke Molan in Nathan Abletts body.

Weren't you firmly on the Watts banwagon 5 days ago?

Weren't you firmly on the Watts banwagon 5 days ago?

Yeah, then I watched the FInal and he looked awful.

Natanui showed 25 times more promise and potential, and general skills.

If you thought the drafting of Luke Molan was bad, wait til you see what happens if we take Watts with a top 3 pick.

If you thought the drafting of Luke Molan was bad, wait til you see what happens if we take Watts with a top 3 pick.

Didn't you say that's what we should do if we finish 14th?

Didn't you say that's what we should do if we finish 14th?

Yes but I say a lot of things.

If you thought the drafting of Luke Molan was bad, wait til you see what happens if we take Watts with a top 3 pick.

So WCE and Freo finish below us. WCE take Rich, and Freo Naitanui as expected.

Who do we take with Pick 3?

Yeah, then I watched the FInal and he looked awful.

Natanui showed 25 times more promise and potential, and general skills.

If you thought the drafting of Luke Molan was bad, wait til you see what happens if we take Watts with a top 3 pick.

Hope our recruiters look at more than one game

Yes but I say a lot of things.

Of course you do. But then, the more things you say, the greater the likelyhood that at least one of them will be right.

i've only seen watts play twice....

How many times have you seen him play when you've been at the ground ?

James Hird in Riewoldt's body

I'll second (or third?) that analogy. I've only seen Watts from footage on the TV, but the little I saw of him in the VicM v WA game gave me that exact impression.

A standout moment came in the first term, when he gathered the footy at the top of the 50m arc and danced around about four blokes to give off a handball. It was on par with anything that TJ did in and around packs, and I rated him our best at finding time and space in traffic.

The handball found a teammate (Mitch Banner, I think) who was immediately wrapped up in a tackle. Some judges might mark that passage of play as an error by Watts - I disagree. Watts was just too good for his teammates; that piece of play was a level above.

Surround that sort of talent and nous with similarly gifted players and he will blossom.

Some people are adept at spotting great talent and others aren't. Watts is rated by the experts for a reason. The fact that you fail to see the upside and pedigree is of no concern to those that can.

And don't feel bad about it. It's ok.

.....And Freak leads blindly with his chin.

I wandered down to watch the main man in action today with my old man.

Jack played about 90% of the game, rotating from CHF to midfield.

I counted his stats as:

-14 kicks

-8 handballs

-7 marks (including 3 very nice contested pack marks)

-2 goals, 1 point

-quite a few assists

Though i may have missed a couple.

Final score was Geelong winning by about 10-12 points.

Jack oozed absolute class today.

He has a massive engine. When he played midfield, he had a guy a lot shorter trying to tag him who just couldn't keep up with him.

When Jack possessed the ball, he just seemed to have forever to dispose of the ball. His reaction time was so quick and his skills are sublime.

He has a trademark baulk or two when surrounded by players, that most of the time gives him more time to open up the play and pass off the ball to a teammate in a better position, with either hand or either foot.

His pinpoint passing on his non-preferred left foot today was unbeleivable to watch for a bloke of 194cm (and growing).

He has awesome evasive skills.

He kicked one goal with ease from outside 50 from a mark and another on the run from a boundary throw in (again from outside 50) reminiscent of one Matthew Pavlich, that was drilled through the middle, that had class class class written all over it.

He did some magical things today that had my mouth watering and had my dad and i in awe, like pivoting and evading players like Hird or TJ does.

He is good.

The only dissapointing thing was that he spent so long on the ball.

I would have liked to have seen him up forward more as the main target.

His spring and speed is very good, but i didn't think he pushed hard enough for leads today or ran into space enough. He seemded to just float into space a lot, present and take the mark naturally, rather than having to work his butt off to get into space to get his possessions. These things can be taught and worked on i suppose.

For mine he was BOG for Sandy.

Tyronne Vickery played quite a good game as well, kicking two goals when pushed forward and was very clean with his possessions. Tap work was good as was his below the knees work. He will be a star.

He will go top 7 for sure.

I said to my old man that i wouldn't be suprised he we seriously looked at him for our number 1 pick.

Dean Bailey was seated close by us, sitting with Predergaust, Leoncilli and one other unknown.

I had a quick chat at 3/4 time with them and i fecetiously asked them if they were here to watch our number 1 draft pick.

One of them replied they were here to watch number 11 and number 8 (Watts & Vickery).

When i asked them why Watts was playing in the midfield, one answered that they were a little dissapointed he was spending so much time in the midfield, as they wanted to have a good look at him up forward.

On another topic, i know for a fact that the possibility of Bruce or Green being traded has been discussed by the powers to be.

The main barrier with Bruce is that he is on a huge pay packet that is over the odds for his current market value

Unbelievable.

So if we were to trade him, we would have to pay part of his salary for the 1 year remaining of his contract, the same as we did with TJ.

With Green, negotiations are stalled for 2 reasons.

As reported, he wants 3 years and much much more than we are prepared to pay.

I can tell you for certain that there are some movers and shakers at the club that want to move Bruce on for either a fair draft pick or an up grade of our 17th or 19th pick. Watch this space.

Carroll will again be offered up for trade for anything that we can get, unfortuately probably like last year no one will want him.

The swapping of picks 1 and 3 for Warnock is rubbish. We are doing our utmost to get him for free in the pre-season draft. Carlton are also in to him in a massive way.

Don't let the brotherly love thing come into the equation, he is not ours just yet.

He is coming to Victoria for sure, but to the highest bidder it appears.

Mark Harvey was also in attendance.

To summarise, i think on todays performance alone, we must take Watts.

He has a lot of tricks up his sleeve for such a big boy and he is below age with a lot of filling out to do.

He has so much time and awareness, which is a rare commodity and a sign of a great player, combined with his unique skill and contested marking attributes.

Lock it in, he is our man.

Give him the number 9.

Thanks for the comprehensive report Haydo.

I'm interested in your opinion about how Mitchell Brown went for the Dragons (named on a HFF)?

PS: I'm moving this over to the drafts and trading board.

Seems that Watts kicked three goals and both he and Brown were named in the best players.

2008 TAC Cup

Sandringham Dragons 2.2 7.3 8.9 10.11 (71)

Geelong Falcons 5.2 8.2 11.5 12.10 (82)

GOALS:

Sandringham Dragons: Watts 3 Vickery 2 Mitchem Muller Robertson Martin Gilchrist

Geelong Falcons: Bucovaz 4 Cunnington 2 Hunt 2 Thompson 2 Hollmer Denton

BEST:

Sandringham Dragons: Nash Elkman Campbell Brown Watts Martin

Geelong Falcons: Delaney Hunt Cunnington Fisher Bucovaz Christensen

What number was he?

I did have my Jack blinkers on today.

Number 18 looked a good key position size, raw and athletic but promising whoever he was.

# 40.

Nice report Haydo, if Watts is the man i hope people realize he`s going to take a few years to come on. Don`t want him getting smashed in his first year.

On another topic, i know for a fact that the possibility of Bruce or Green being traded has been discussed by the powers to be.

The main barrier with Bruce is that he is on a huge pay packet that is over the odds for his current market value

Unbelievable.

So if we were to trade him, we would have to pay part of his salary for the 1 year remaining of his contract, the same as we did with TJ.

With Green, negotiations are stalled for 2 reasons.

As reported, he wants 3 years and much much more than we are prepared to pay.

I can tell you for certain that there are some movers and shakers at the club that want to move Bruce on for either a fair draft pick or an up grade of our 17th or 19th pick. Watch this space.

Carroll will again be offered up for trade for anything that we can get, unfortuately probably like last year no one will want him.

The swapping of picks 1 and 3 for Warnock is rubbish. We are doing our utmost to get him for free in the pre-season draft. Carlton are also in to him in a massive way.

Don't let the brotherly love thing come into the equation, he is not ours just yet.

He is coming to Victoria for sure, but to the highest bidder it appears.

Thanks for the info Haydo.

I was interested in your comments about trading Bruce, and Green's negotiations being stalled. Logically, you'd trade a contracted player (Bruce), because there's no threat of him walking out on the club, and going into the PSD. He'd also have greater currency than Green, though I don't like the idea of paying part of his salary next year.

Is there any talk of Green being put on the trade table?

Thanks for the info Haydo.

I was interested in your comments about trading Bruce, and Green's negotiations being stalled. Logically, you'd trade a contracted player (Bruce), because there's no threat of him walking out on the club, and going into the PSD. He'd also have greater currency than Green, though I don't like the idea of paying part of his salary next year.

Is there any talk of Green being put on the trade table?

I do remember seeing #40, but wasn't really paying attention.

Green could be a trade unfortunately.

I really want to see Bruce traded and Green made captain.