Generation dee

Been saying that all year mate. Why have a a bounce or throw in if you're just going to let anyone jump all over the rucks? Imagine if your power forward did it in basketball? Might as well be like auskick where the coach just blindly kicked it and called play on. I hope it's changed. One ruck rules changed basically killed off one of our greatest ruckman 15 years ago with the introduction of the centre circle, maybe the next one can help the career of our current promising star

Without being dramatic, we are at risk of looking as bad as North or geelong when we lose and I don't want to continue supporting a club like that. I can handle being beaten by a more experienced side but when you make the same mistakes, especially to the same sides, and fail to either plan accordingly or have a plan b, well that's what really hurts. Good teams adjust or at least learn. I've been a very patient and positive supporter for too long and always had belief at times blindly, but I'm really getting tired of the slow ascent, especially tripping over the same hurdles.

We have players with good disposal. I mean, we generally use the ball well. What we don't do, is use the best option either fast enough, or often enough. That's the difference. Watch the first quarter, we found space and link up play well. Good passages of play where we run and carry, or quick use of the footy made us break the lines. The 3rd quarters we gave to players in worse positions or under pressure and failed to run. Now is that lack of communication? Lack of awareness? Or lack of sticking to the plan? I don't know but it happened fsr too often today and has been a trend all year, which is what allowed st Kilda countless unchecked runs inside forward 50. And when you don't play a man on man defence, you're asking to be heavily scored against with that situation.

I'm sick of darwin being blamed, or tiredness. They had a bye a few weeks ago, on top of a long break leading into the Queens birthday game a month that back. It's irrelevant. It's a cop out excuse. They are trained professionals who had nearly 8 days turn around from kick off to kick off. If they are tired and didn't have the legs to run it out, then questions need to be asked of our fitness staff. That said; the fact we have ample fit players 3/4 the way through the season says to me that isn't the issue. For too long this club has used excuses to justify losses. You've seen it, I've seen it and anyone with half a brain can see it. Yes your decision making and execution get worse as you get tired, but playing in darwin 8 days ago is a cop out, used far too often for a group of players that just don't want to compete hard enough for long enough. Anb, bugg or whoever don't make a difference in the side when you have 15 players continuing to play dumb football whilst failing to learn from their mistakes.

Learnt nothing from round 6. Darwin isn't an excuse. That was 7.5 days ago. No excuses with the team named. Mental toughness is still an issue as much as I thought it had improved. Nathan jones- I've been the biggest fan of yours over a long time, but time and time again, when we need leadership you are nowhere to be seen. When we got behind today you, and other leaders, showed nothing. Viney was the only one who stood up. I know we are young and I know we are "educating", but if we are educating why do we make the same errors every match? The kick outs, the amount of guys jumping for the same ball leaving opposition players free on the ground, the way our forwards crowd each other and the way our midfielders either don't run hard enough, or can't get to contests to help out defenders. I hate st. Kilda, but I wish our boys had as much heart as some of their players. Pathetic effort from the coaching staff again. No plan b, reactive to the same ways they opened us up time and time again, and the playing group with the same lack of mental toughness or dare that has cursed us for years on end.

Are you even watching the same game? Seriously.

I disagree, I think they got 2 lucky goals out of the 3 they scored. They haven't yet got an answer for our speed, run or pressure and if we tidy up our ball movement, continuing the intensity, we can bury them by half time.

Our pressure is first rate today. We are pressuring really high, and they are allowing us to run the ball from half back too easy.

Love scoring coast to coast goals against a team that pride themselves on it...

And that's why Matt Jones is in the best 22!

Let's go boys.

Was at that game too, even mentioned to my company that "we were on" early in the match. My, how it was a differemt mood 2 hours later. Agree on the last part, we have shown all year that we will fight and compete amd not lay down.

I may be wrong, just the impression I've got. When you have a list as healthy as we have in round 17, you can't afford to not put it all on the line. Anyway, looking forward to watching frost and omac today, frost has been making some mistakes but he has looked to take the game on, as well as use his athleticism 3rd man up. It's a lot more comfortable for him down there and I'm glad the forward ruck project has ended. Also the other player set for a big day is gawn. Hickey smashed him last time, but gawny is a very good learner, think it will be a different story today.

I've noticed over the last 2 weeks a slight change in roos in the media. It seems he is being more nostalgic and talking about the future outside of football. For some reason, the hunch I get is that knowing his coaching career at the top level is ending, I feel like he is going to push really hard for that 8th spot. Whilst he has been super at "educating" thus far, I wouldn't be surprised to see a real push towards "motivation" if even behind closed doors. He obviously had us primed for a big start against freo, even considering we gave the first 2 goals up. I'll just say, for those going today, get in early as I think the first 10 minutes will be explosive. We can not lose to the saints again, and I predict we will destroy them early, even at that abysmal stadium.

Absolutely, but adelaide have a lot more mental toughness when the going is hard than west coast, which was what my reference was to in terms of them being another mismatch in a gf. I still think it will be Sydney. Would love to see western bulldogs, they have been very quietly going about their business, trying a few new things, but settling in nicely towards the finals.

I highly doubt that. Adelaide are a far more competitive side. Even the losses they have they give a good account of themselves.

In other good news, good luck to Kent having signed on for a further 2 seasons. Hoe he plays another big game!

Been saying this a while. Big bust. Injuries or not, he doesn't possess anything to be a good, consistent footballer.

Must have been a bad time for you, almost like having Barry Pendergast and cam Schwab in charge?

It's taken a few weeks, but others are starting to see that as well. Clearly coaches knew about that as he has been getting picked over Dunn and garland etc. Frost has been in a similar position the past few games. He seems to be reading the ball better and backing himself. With more training and coaching, these three boys will no doubt improve to be strong and dependable defenders. I've said all along how imperative Tom signing on is, and ideally oscar will follow soon after.

Our third highest score by quarter time!

Very sombre day personally, I still remember when I heard the news about Phil last year. I highly doubt that I'd be focused strongly on football if I was playing today, and he was my coach about 12 years ago. It would be much more difficult for players who had him up until 12 months ago. Hard to get emotionally invested in this game, against anyone else I'd love to see adelaide win to "do it for walshy". Different circumstances, but last year when we beat Richmond just after Tommy hafey passed, I remember roos used that as motivation to the players. Perhaps today we might be motivated to do it again for a good footballing person. I'd just like to see a good hard fought contest played in a manner befitting a terrific mentor, coach and great bloke.

No, you're arguing with a pointless comparison. I can do it too. Daisy Thomas that contested ball winning, hardened body, is 185 and 84. You're literally arguing for the sake of it. Grimes, in all his 98 games is a lot of things, however, hardened body is not once.

But he knows football! Just ask him!

Sloane hasn't been 78kg since he was drafted. If you're going to use stats to back up your misconceptions, at least grab some recent ones. Footy wire has sloane at 83kg, Grimes at 84. As well as 183cm vs 187. If grimes was such a hardened body who didn't lose one on one's as easily as he does, he would be in the team. Unfortunately, he isn't, he does lose one on one's and that's why he's not in the team.