Deecisive

This is basically the same team that played finals last year. that had one of the best defenses last year. now look at us a shambles. All of our backmen want to either go for the mark or spoil usually in the same contest, spoiling our own players. Jones is not a backman, oscar is not a backman, frost while i like him turns the ball over, but then again which of our backmen did not. Saints players cleared the ball so easily at stopages. our players just seemed to stand and watch them go. sadly i dont see a couple of early picks helping this team when they cannot defend, tackle, handball, or generally play football. 50+ years supporting this club and this is the crap they serve up year after year.

we are luck to be as close as we are

what a pitiful example of football. missing passes, handballs, tackles, no chasing.... actually its pretty much like we have been playing all year, so i guess we get top marks for consistency.

give him a chance only played a couple of games with the Dees, keep playing him for the rest of the year to give him the experience. he can mark, can kick and can do the tap work. So far its been in dribs and drabs but one day it will come together and he will be a real asset.

a small forward that can kick goals, a novel idea we should try that

we are lucky to be so close when we played so very badly. I just wish our players could learn how to cover their man, chase and occasionally tackle to opposition when they have the ball. still in it but quite frankly we do not deserve to win this with the [censored] poor display we have shown so far. still we have lost those we should have won, i am happy to take the points for one we dont deserve to win, if they can pull themselves together.

we have not played well, but we are still in this with a good chance of wining. a lot of players down, maybe someone can try to quieten the dogs dunkley he seems to have been pivotal in their scoring so far.

what annoyed me the most was the inability of some of our players to move the ball on quickly. in the last 2 minutes before half time when we were doing well we kicked the ball sideways and ended up losing it over the line from our own poor disposal instead of attacking. the defensive approach shows a lack of confidence in their own team mates going forward.

i would like to see ANB replaced, his 15 disposals at a 54% efficiency rate was again poor. he needs to go back to casey and learn to dispose of the ball and kick straight. It will be good to have lever in next week, though something needs to be done about the way Frost, May and Lever play together. Frost often goes for the mark and or the punch and too often has had May crashing into the the pack to punch the ball, which often takes out half of our back line players and allows the opposition to run into goal.

preuss needs to come in regardless of whether max plays or not. if max plays he needs the backup support. i dont see why we cannot just keep one big man resting on the bench so preuss, weid, tom mc and max can rotate there. just dont have them all on the ground at the same time. this is not just about ruck work but being able to take marks or stop the opposition ruckman from owning the ground we need to be competitive and give ourselves the best chance of getting the ball first from stoppages. ANB is fast but does not seem to put that speed to any good use, he needs to be replaced, I would try lewis down forward, that would also give you the ability to move him back if needed, or swing Jones forward and lewis back. Hannan was not great swap him for JHK, he seems to have earned a chance, he looks to have the good at times but often stuffs up by kicking the ball too low and turning it over. he is worth a shot up forward.

strange response from a coach. had a training session where players did training drills, short passes, fast break, etc.. why is goal kicking any different from the dozens of other things they practice each week.

Put weeds at full forward and may at centre half forward. Pruess in a forward pocket to ensure weeds does not have all the big men on him. put tom back into the backline so that he can get some form back. time for jeffy to go back to the VFL, his failure to take a kick 35m out shows the lack of confidence. Hannan and spargo back to the vfl next week to get some form. only one should come back in against freo.

what rot, goodwin is not responsible for our poor kicking and turnovers. we had virtually the same number of shots for goal as the pies, it is not his fault that our players cannot kick a goal, hit a target by foot or by hand. the players are the ones on the field who needed to stand up and play but they did not. dropping easy chest marks, fumbling the ball, not chasing, not tacking... i doubt any of these were part of the coaches game plan. Salem had 8 turnovers, a player playing in the backline turning it over so often will result in the opposition scoring. Garlett was woeful, while spargo did some ok things he also screwed up a few things that would have made a difference. Not sure what value Wagner gave us, mcdonald was woeful, Hannan probably needed another week in the VFL to get some match fitness rather than playing. Angus's disposal efficiency was down and both of our captains did not provide a lot of assistance.So not sure how the coach can cop all the blame given the above.

still time to turn this around. we just need to improve our disposal efficiency, it is woeful at the moment.

we can still win this. too many poor handballs and missed marks. Hopefully our backline can settle down. some of these have not played together for a while so may take some time to sort themselves out. go dees

i think they need to work on their mental state when kicking, too many players done look confident in kicking for goal.

thats not lose checking that zoning

another quarter like that last and we will lose this. we should be 6-8 goals up. i am not a fan of the zoning, it works when the opposition makes mistakes but when they dont they get a free run into their forward line.

so who is James Jordan??

oliver's game was hampered by constantly being held and pushed with little response from the umpires. a lot of frees went by the wayside today. a lot of poor disposals as usual where we could not even handpass it to players 5 meters away or kick it to players 30 meters away. poor defensive pressure allowing opposition players to hand it off to a team mate and then run on to receive it back while our players wander around. it amazes me how often we kick it into our forward line directly to one or more opposition players. If i was the coach i would make the whole team watch a replay of that game every day next week with the sound up so that they can hear the commentators assessment of their game. maybe even watch last years final against the eagles. Then find a game where we played well and make them watch that in the hope they can see what they should and should not be doing. that and give petracca, hunt and jeffy kicking lessons.

Nice

lets not incite violence, with our luck if one of our players bumps mumford they will likely get reported. I expect mumford will be targeting max so it will be interesting to see how max copes with it, he did not go well against port when they tried that.

fritch and salem both turned the ball over. i liked frost and oscar both did pretty well. shame our forwards cannot kick straight, or mark, or tackle, or chase, or handball

we still need to win this, and can. just need to be a bit cleaner with our ball movement. this is by far the best we have been playing this year. keep on playing like this and we may well play finals football again.

a lot of positives so far tonight, playing well as a team. poor disposals are still there but not as many and not hurting us as badly as past weeks. we certainly in with a chance regardless of the umpires.