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Are Freo likely to take two picks around the #15 - #18 mark? Which become 16 -20 after F/S and Academy picks. Draft points calcs aside, Freo would probably prefer Carlton's pick 6 (that will become 8) especially as they need to pay for Neale. Brisbane already have picks 14 and our 2021 1st (15 - 18). They will relish pick 6 and probably demand it. Freo drove a very hard bargain for Neale to Brisbane and while they may not get the same value back they are likely to extract fair value. I like your reasoning as a basis for a trade but not sure Freo will take two very low 1st rounders. I'm guessing any deal for Cerra needs to help Freo get Neale.

Goodwin was on AFL 360 last night. He repeated earlier comments that the 'veterans' Melksham, Hibberd and Jones were working really hard and were ready, if needed. Then he talked about keeping a stable team at this time of the year and not making changes (paraphrasing). He didn't mention AVB and JJ but they would also be in contention, if needed. Hunt is also in the running to come back. From the Richardson SEN interview it sounded like Hunt would be back as his speed really helps us or words to that effect, whcih then puts Smith/Bowey in the mix. I had no sense that Jones would be 1st or 2nd in line should injuries hit. Maybe further down the order going on who has been selected ahead of him in recent times.

Except for close wins vs Freo and the Dogs (Port kicked themselves out of an easy win), Port have been cruising for months. So if they cruise over the dogs this week plus the easy QF win and 2 byes isn't ideal GF preparation.. They could go into the GF undertone in terms of high pressure football and scoreboard pressure.. If we have a solid hit out and beat the Cats (but it not go down to the wire so I don't become a nervous wreck) we go into the GF a bit more match hardened. We were challenged more than Port at the end of the season. Being a bit more match hardened may not be a big thing but every little bit counts in a GF. So their cruising may hinder them in a GF vs us (if that happens). Port would be desperately praying for a Geelong win.

I've now received the email,. My earlier post isn't relevant given that each bar code holder can buy 8 tickets.

I'm guessing there are two versions: 1) for interstate members who may want to use their ticket rights and 2) one for Victorians like @Cassiewwho can't go and can transfer their rights. Edit: Just saw your latest post: In 2018 I also gave bar codes to other fans and never had any issues..

I was surprised how civil they were to their own and to the opps. Some posters on DL go in fairly hard on some of our players.

I'm guessing it would be to do with covid tracking. And if the tickets are only on electronic/mobile phones it pays for the person buying the ticket to use their own info.

I've yet to receive the email but in talking with the club they mentioned the tickets need to be bought in the name of the person attending not in the name of the member. Could folks check their email to see if there is any info on this. Thanks.

Its still early in the week - they haven't even opened a PF thread. These comments are from the bf, SF Review thread. Mitch Cleary is spot on. Sav has to play against the Demons. They have two elite defenders who help each other out more than than other defensive duo in the comp. Sav’s presence alone, let alone his aerial ability, will give May and Lever plenty to think about and give Hawkins and Cameron the relative freedom they had last night. ... Gotta get it down there first. Selwood hasn’t had a sniff of it in finals. Parfitt is out . Danger has been average in finals . No O’Connor not in to tag. Oliver torched us last time and they have the best ruckman. We've been crappy starters for a while now. Haven't kicked 3 goals in a first quarter since Rd 19 vs Richmond (6 games ago). Would love to actually put a few on the scoreboard early and put the other team under pressure instead of a dour slog or being under pressure ourselves. Danger was absolutely smashing centre bounces when GWS were coming big time at us Pretty unconvincing. Dees will probably maul us. I think we will be 4 goals down at quarter time. We are still mentally fragile. Tuohy, henry and stanley great. Holmes looks very promising, but needs to clean up in front of goal. Wouldn't it be great though if Higgins came good and played a couple of blinders in the finals. Maybe he has been foxing all year, just to come out cherry ripe for the big stage ... ( cue end of dream sequence music, screen goes wobbly as we wake up). Midfield: Stanley, Duncan, Selwood, Dangerfield, Guthrie V Gawn, Oliver, Petracca, Viney, Brayshaw. Danger the only winner out of those. And he's got a stuffed hand or finger or something. ... Oliver is the standout, Fit Danger/Traca same level, I'd put Current Selwood a tad over Viney, Guthrie and Duncan both a class above Brayshaw. Gawn a class above Stanley ... Yeah about that H&A. In a final id have Bradshaw and Viney over Guthrie in Duncan. Just more finals body's and style. ... ...Not sure whether Bradshaw wants to come out of retirement.. ... Im hoping the dee's selectors are reading the forum and I confuse them enough to cause chaos come game day. I haven't liked Kolo for years glad people are coming with me on this Just one last thing, for the earlier posts stating Dalhouse can come back in and play as an inside mid, the mental institutions are still open during lock down so you are able to check in. His season has been well below average as a forward, given far too many chances and has zero capacity to play as an inside mid. Just stop it. All of you. All of you. Melbourne aren't that good. Their forward line is hardly scary apart from Pickett - smalls trouble us - and we have a stronger midfield. I don't think Gawn scares Stanley either. It's their defence that gets the job done and makes the rest of their team appear better then they are. A defensive forward on Salem and make Lever and May accountable. Sav, Hawkins, Cameron and Rohan could trouble them with the right delivery. ... That's the key - high bombs like we saw against Port won't get the job done. We played with better method and thought on Friday night - need to do the same against Melbourne.

Really? Sooooooooooo long ago. Easily trumped by the Brayshaw, Jetta, Pickett, Jackson, Rivers, Farmer clans and communities. As an aside, Gus said in the GnG podcast that the WA government gave his mum an exemption to enter the state but not his dad both applications were on compassionate grounds. It is odd as the Brayshaw name is as close to sporting royalty as there is in WA.

Melbourne Football Club Supporter Syndrome. Translated as: always expect the worst.; Murphy's law says..., the sky is falling, a cloud in every silver lining, Norm Smith's curse, etc.

Thanks, forgot that one...

Agreed. Oddly, Scott said Optus suited their style of play. Yet, this was the first game they have won there in several attempts. Maybe he was pumping up his player's confidence. Optus might suit their game but it suits ours better. And we have won several games there vs the Eagles and the crowd. We can draw on that for confidence. Like you I think that whatever positives Geelong take out of playing at Optus ours trumps theirs.

Don't feel sorry for them. August for us was: Melbourne-Brisbane tarmac-Melbourne-Perth-Melbourne-(Geelong)-Adelaide-Perth. And most of that in some form of quarantine. They had a very soft second half of the season. Crocodile tears!

Has anyone in WA heard of Geelong? Unlikely. A backwater to them. We will have the neutral crowd cheering for us as well as our own fans. Lets hope it helps the umpires make good decisions.

If Geelong were playing Sydney last night, I doubt we would be playing Geelong next week. Sydney would be a more formidable opp next week, especially if Buddgy decided to turn it on. Happy but nervous to be playing Geelong.

It could easily happen that next year an interstate Premier says players who aren't vaccinated cannot enter their state or must do 14 days quarantine. Player has a choice: get vaccinated or stay home.

It is bizzare for Bontempelli to have nearly 3 times the votes of the second place getter, Walsh. And, surely, every player knows who Oliver is! Not saying Bontempelli shouldn't have won but to not have Oliver, Wines in the top 5 is bizzare. Usually the players get it right. Not this year.

I don't think TMc is playing anywhere near his best. Whether it is back issues, poor form or a different role since Brown started to play, or some combo who knows. His role since Brown arrived isn't really clear, as lately Brown has been playing up the field quite a bit. With a two week rest before the Prelim lets hope TMc returns to form.

Great read, thanks. Sensational synergy with the West Perth Football Club. Couldn't have scripted it better: West Perth Football Club welcomed the Demons to its facility: “It seems only appropriate we throw our support behind the red and the blue. Same song, same colours, rich history and we are on the band wagon,” the club posted on Facebook. And the team is staying at the nearby Joondalup. Well done to local dee fans: "WA-based Melbourne supporters club Western Demons secretary Joan Lawson, of Duncraig, said she would ring Joondalup Resort to ask if they could tie red and blue ribbons around the trees to “let the players know we’re here”. While the team won't see us parading our colours to training etc it is good to know they will be surrounded by red and blue. Reckon we will be the sentimental favourites for the rest of our WA journey! Can't wait for the Prelim.

Lifting of curfew wasn't on yesterdays eased restrictions for Sept 23. I'm sure there will be many thousands of others doing the same, Doc

If folks are thinking of pushing the envelope and visit others/have visitors keep in mind that if it is a twilight game, it will finish after the Melbourne curfew time of 9.00 pm AEST. So getting home undetected might be tricky

Don't know. Can only guess that gate takings and sponsorship monies go to the AFL. I would like to hear the AFL come out and tell us what the deal was. After all. it has spent millions this year putting East Coast teams into resorts for quarantine every other week and is bringing millions in to house teams during the finals campaign. Surely a bit of a windfall for the Perth economy. I wonder how the news of no payment is going down at the cash strapped Clubs who have had to put off staff etc. They are the ones who will have to budget the million dollar losses already endured. Time for Gil to explain to fans who contribute a few million to Clubs, what the deal is.

McGowan Gloats Its one thing to gloat about denying Eddie entry, to '...keep him safe from West Australians'. Its quite another to disclose and brag about not paying the AFL a cent for hosting the GF. I'm really surprised the AFL would agree to no payment, as a purported reason of having the GF interstate was to raise money as well as have crowds. I wonder how SA and Qld feel about that disclosure, if they were prepared to pay... McGowan: “We‘ve just said we’ll do a Covid-safe game if you come here - and we are not giving you any money and that’s your choice...So we drove a pretty hard bargain. I didn’t want to hand over $20 million.” Covid-safe? Sure but he wouldn't hesitate to close down the event on the morning of the game. No money, no crowds!! Would rather the GF go to a State where it is welcomed rather than used for political point scoring. And it is very poor form to boast when his draconian border restrictions prevent us from attending. It is like rubbing salt into a wound. A bit of empathy for our plight and some diplomacy wouldn't go astray. It is a privilege to host the GF and he should treat that privilege with some respect.

Can't see Jones getting back. Hasn't played a full game for a long time so his calf hasn't been tested in match conditions. With any player it takes a few games after a long time out to hit their straps again and regain touch etc. So even as the medi sub he would be a risky selection. If there was a plan to bring him back he would have been selected before now to get that match conditioning. For the last 18 months his tackling, chasing and other defensive work has been poor. We now play fast and defensive football. Don't think there is a spot for him.