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Great reports. Thanks to all contributors. You all provided seemingly consistent reports so able to get a real feel for the development going on at Casey. Sorry the sausages were burnt you all deserve better.

Coach has responsibility for performance of players. I have asked Saty if training is conducted with intensity. The coach should be making sure performance is trialled and trained into players. Structures and patterns seem to generate enough possession etc so the coach gets that right but maybe needs to get a bit more into the heads of the players

Not sure if he'll get the 300,but your comments and others lead to the bleeding obvious. Jones becomes a part timer. if he is keeping someone out, he gets rested. If he matches up against an opponent he plays on them. If he adds value he plays. If he is not 100% he is rested. He plays cherry ripe every time he steps out and he leaves each game in the seniors absolutely exhausted, maybe even rests the next week to recover. Jones has always given his all so should have no problems matching these standards. He still has plenty to add and can do it with true leadership.

Good point. Maybe my metaphor was a bit ambitious, but I still support my contention.

Agreed with this post until last unnecessary and incorrect comment. Its inclusion reinforces the ignorance that has been displayed in the last election. Politics and unions both have their examples of people failing in their job and moving or being moved on. With Such a high non voting and informal level this election we see a level of disengagement that does not occur in football clubs. We need to have the passion for the game retained and perhaps if similar passion was applied to politics there may be less of this ignorance. Sorry. Expressing such incorrect comments in an offhand way perpetuates fake news assumptions and is more dangerous to society than your usually insightful comments on our foot you club.

Don't disagree and think that we could have the answer within. Oscar has a reliable disposable efficiency and may be able to convert. Tom has been a defender capable of nullifying big forwards. Just swap em around and see what happens. Fritsch to high half forward where his better disposal can be used to better effect. Not dismayed by last nights performance. We had better players and won except for conversion.

We allow opposition players time and space to get balanced while we move it on too quickly even when off balance. The quick hand off is compounded by the player giving off does not shepherd the player he gives it too creating continuous pressure

Sorry should read we need to know when to create etc. if this thread continues I may need to refer to my notes

You all do know the " chaos theory" I hope? There is order in chaos! We do however know when to create the bifurcation and arrange the pattern. We also need to recognise the strange attractor,

Others have said it. Perspectives are altered. I hope Brad has support that he will need, As a Melbourne player he earnt our applause. He gave us so much enjoyment we can surely provide him with any comfort he desires. This is an event that can define the club, I hope we can meet the challenge.

Have been going to make same comments nearly all season but threads get away from me. When I have seen live games , Billy seems to be running and making good positions but is not always used, then when he gets it, stops and props, doesn't move it on to passing runner. The last trait may be why he is not used. There seems to be a lack of knowledge or lack of confidence, both could be affected by him not getting a sustained run in ones, he is not seen as, accepted as a first team player. He does still seem to be a little under muscled but I think his old man was similar physique and seemed to go ok, so maybe needs some more consideration. How do the fringe players train? Are they with the main squad every session or do they spend more time at Casey. I hope we train as a complete squad with intensity supplied by competition for spots. Selection can then be based on matching against opposition, with promotion only being made on performance. Hopefully this arrangement can be achieved as we get a full list back from injury.

Liked this post but don't agree with 15 a side and question how interchange suggestion would affect. incorrect disposal and kicking backwards would be a start to other suggestions also being picked up. Good discussions.

Don't think the AFL would allow that but they certainly could recognise the concern and pay them. This would achieve a move towards greater payment for umpires and some of the proposals which have merit to recognise their professional status. Also free kicks in congested packs for round the neck and in the back may reduce that ugly rugby pack style and open up the game if they were paid regularly. This is not necessarily to advantage Melbourne but would improve the spectacle. While aware that duckers and divers could seek to take advantage technique would quickly be adjusted by coaches and players to overcome that situation. Reward good correct tackling but protect the head and the player in front. oh and what about that obvious free kick to Oman when he was kneed in the back and no mark taken? There were a number of similar incidents not paid. It's in the back. Soft single handed push offs often just to get balance which did not affect the mark spilling were paid. Sometimes it depends on the positioning of the umpires more than anything else.

Macca I usually like your comments but disagree with some of this. I have been saying for some time that we need to call the umpires in and ask them what is wrong with our techniques. We do not receive what appear to be obvious free kicks and give away what are doubtful. Even commentators recognise the many discrepancies. We need to improve our positioning or techniques to improve the ratio and particularly the momentum turning aspects of our free kick record. I note that the booing by Essendon fans resulted in AFL luminaries to call on a review of umpires so a reasonable approach can be worthwhile.

Frits up forward thanks we have plenty to go in defence but can't kick straight forward. Let's see if he can clean us up.

Again state we need to address the umpire fails which kept eagles in the match and ignored any advantage to us. Without their fails we still win despite our self induced errors and poor conversion. But what is that kick to a totally free eagles defender about, why can't we kick snide 50 to our advantage. Surely our players being kept out of contests deserves the same consideration as an eagle being kept out of contests, surely our forwards being held is worthy of same reward as an eagle being held. its just getting so hard to watch our players being disadvantaged. Great effort

Thanks Saty. Great pictures and insightful comments. I really like Frits and seeing how little bulk muscle am amazed at his contribution. He has so much potential and I reckon he could be a surprise packet. Also how did Stretch train, he contributed solidly again last week I thought and is improving all the time. Not likely to be a game winner but huge contributor. Trac also shows glimpses and I want him to be our Jarman,Burgoyne, type play that inspired patch when needed to keep us in or win the match. So many thoughts on this squad that only a conversation could cover. Keep up your positive posts to prompt my thoughts Go Dees

I agree with PraHa. This is a great opportunity for Goodwin to show he is developing to elite company. And while obviously injuries restrict capacity, the listed team is not that bad. All capable and plenty of unknown. Some flexibility with Pruess and Frits to throw forward. Petty to relieve Jones, Baker unknown who knows With the confidence of last weeks win, desperation for the complete game, some confidence restored and particularly the neutral impact of umpires anything could happen. I think the home crowd will influence the umpiring and there will be a need for Demon supporters to support loudly and proudly. Let the boys know you are there and representing us at home in numbers. Leave the ground hoarse and exhausted, I only recovered my voice on Tuesday after cheering the side home last week. Supporters are a significant contributor and I know that we never lose hope. Go Dees.

You forgot Frost who was fffantastic.

I think you could be being a bit harsh. While I have said that we have needed an outright star Jarman, Aker, Burgoyne, style who had plenty of attitude and turned it on on the biggest occasion, and we have never had that star. I had hopes that Watts was that icing on the cake but we got rid of him just as the fundamentals gathered. Then Hogan but we would not persevere with his inconsistent brilliance, demanding he subsume himself to the team game. We now have Oliver Trac, Brayshaw, Gawn, Jets, who knows how good Fritsch Spargo Hore, Lockhartcould be. Weid is still growing into his role With Lever and May still to get on the park, the squad T Mac,Frost, Stretch, Melk Hannah, ANB, Maynard, etc can all play a meaningful support role. Even OMac can fill a spot well. Lewis certainly ads an assured understanding of what it takes in the big time and is necessary in the buildup and would need to show he has another finals campaign in him Where is that big occasion star it isn't Jones or Viney but as with all the team they can still provide that great game. The coach needs to recognise what we have and use the full body of works with diverse talent spreads needing diverse game plans against oppositions who are not consistent. We have the talent, we just need to charge them with confidence and get the right combination to ensure we win.

When a Melbourne player stands up or retaliates they are penalised. Our opponents seem to be able to intimidate often illegally without the same penalty. We need to discuss with officiating body what is wrong with our structures or techniques that means we get no protection and only penalties. We may be able to change our attitudes and demeanour to allow us to play with greater confidence.

A perfect example that supports my comments on confidence.

Like that rotation model. I have called it churn and allows players to move through areas. Requires awareness by and of teamates to ensure there is alignment and cover . Biggest problem is avoiding negative match ups.

All good points. Intensity seems also a key. We break down when off balance or caused to rush but do no apply the same intensity to opponents who are able to balance and deliver. Again a confidence that this intensity will be recognised by the officiating umpires is needed to allow confidence in application.

See my earlier comments on umpiring. Recognition through protection and reward are vital. When the coach tells you to put your head over the ball and it gets hit, ground into the dirt, or pulled off by an opponent with no protection or reward you lose confidence. When you play in front as instructed by the coach but are not rewarded or protected when pushed out or ridden into the ground you lose confidence. when you tackle as instructed and the ball spills free but you are not rewarded you lose confidence. When this effort is not rewarded and you see your opponents executing the same actions and getting rewarded you not only lose confidence but you become frustrated. We must approach the umpires to find out why our structures or techniques are wrong. We have the most dominating ruckman who has received no support and often is penalised for action which are used against him. Receivers of his efforts are pushed and scragged with no protection. Our Forwards who are pushed under the ball or held out of contests do not seem to receive the same rewards that our opponents do when they receive similar treatment. Our defenders are penalised for chopping, holding or blocking when opponents appear to use the same tactics without punishment. That the punishment or lack of reward often significantly effects our flow and places our players out of position our structures or techniques must be wrong. We must talk with the rule makers to correct our structures or techniques so that our players can play with the confidence and flair to make our beautiful game more attractive..