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The people that went after Bailey...no names (you can work it out) were convinced the players were being molly coddled (probably some truth) and needed a bit of old fashioned discipline (overkill). Neeld in his haste and desire to pick up a senior gig was only too willing to sell the message they wanted then tried to carry it through. It was a rotten period in the clubs history and the blame should not be Neeld's alone. He was a symptom of what was wrong and very much the wrong choice by a club clutching at straws and wanting to hear what they wanted to hear. They had no idea. Thank goodness PJ came on board then Roos otherwise I don't know if we would have made it through...

If I was WC I would be throwing a truckload of cash at Patrick Cripps....a WA boy. ...that means letting Gaff go and we are in the box seat.

I don't think he's up upgrade at all 'Red'... Just a small example of his work. "Mitch Wallis’ decision to ignore a short pass to Mitch Honeychurch and go longer to Gowers inside the last minute backfired, with his kick going out on the full and North then going coast-to-coast from the ensuing back pocket free kick." I think we will be looking at other avenues, he will be a good pick up for Carlton.

Think outside the box...look for up and comers on the fringe at other clubs, don't just recycle the same names. Trade our not getting a games or what we have surplus of & trade for needs... Look to trade in to the first round with a package of players.

Thanks for your thoughts Adam... If you are thinking of trading Hogan in a deal for a free agent then you are highly overrating Gaff. A few might also be overrating Tommy Mac if they think we could do without Hogan.

What is this group speak/think you speak of? Don't confuse mob rule with a small bunch of posters who want to engage you back & forth. I see many varied opinions on Gaff and most topics on this forum. I hardly remember a consensus opinion on anything.

Realise that Tim is a Saints supporter for a start, I haven't found him to be WA biased. A bit of a screw loose at times...yeah. ...but I guess we wait and see on Gaff. I would be looking for the next player about to make his mark or not getting opportunity and targeting them rather than or in conjunction with a big fish type player anyway. I'm sure we are...Yeo & Dockerty were taken out of Brisbane and became pretty decent players. Maybe there is one at GC, I know the AFL wouldn't be happy but it's not our job to prop up GC. The Tiges have some small forwards maybe worth a shot.

By my reckoning we haven't won a game since he was announced as the new CEO. Looks like he's lost the players before he's even started.

I'm not at all sure he did mishandle the coaching situation at EFC...subsequent events would say they should have kept with Knights.

What are the inaccuracies?

Maybe he should approach them...interesting idea I know but I think it's his responsibility, not the other way around. That's what made Ian Dicker such an important figure at Hawthorn, he galvanised the supporters.

I don't see anything particularly wrong with the article. We can be a thin skinned mob at times. I am however p....off that ex board members seem to want to open their mouths again. To me they are total non entities after what they stood by and watch happen. There are misgivings about Pert from around the football community it seems and that's ok, as Caro says PJ didn't leave EFC with a clean skin. I'm not so sure about whether this Murphy fellow is a good or bad endorsement of anyone. That enquiry seemed a bit of a put up job and there was only ever 1 real boss at Collingwood, he escaped any real criticism. My personal feeling is that Bartlett has felt a bit left out in the rebuild and has been seen as a figurehead. There were rumblings about the relationship between him and PJ a few years back. PJ liked to run the ship and he ran it well. To turn something around like he has with our club there really needs to be only one person in charge...it can't be done by committee. Now, someone like Bartlett doesn't get to where he is in life without a substantial ego to go with it. Now was his chance, he couldn't move on PJ or whilst PJ was in the job as he had way too many credits in the bank. I've never met Bartlett but watching from a far I can't say I'm a fan. He doesn't seem to engage with the supporter group from what I've seem, maybe I'm wrong here. I just hope he doesn't let his ego get in the way and this appointment works well. Pity it was time for PJ to retire, another few years would have been good for us but I have a feeling not so good for Bartlett and his board.

The difference is you replace them with not quite as old guys who are better players now. That's why we look at Gaff, Murphy and co... You don't replace them with kids.

Posted this in another thread. I think he's worth a look at, particularly the way Garlett has been of late...

The Tiges have a few small forwards who can't get a game at the moment. I would seriously look at a trade for Shai Bolton. He's behind Rioli, Higgins etc at the mo. We need some pace and x factor in the forward half.

"There had been suggestions over the weekend from former directors and powerbrokers that Jackson would quit his post immediately, but these were proven to be unfounded at Thursday’s morning tea." I find this a most interesting line from the article... These are the people that put us in our previous poor position and cause nothing but trouble. There they go again and yet again they are wrong...ego might not be a dirty word but for some I wish they would just shut it.

...the bye round, nearly as bad as preseason. It will be good to be back playing footy again on Friday.

I wouldn't be targeting Wallis 'Moon'... I think Tyson is a much better player/prospect and he's struggling to get a game. We need a bit of run & carry/class. Looking for someone to emerge like Yeo has at WC...this is the type of player we need. Who has the skillset but hasn't put it all together yet? Someone to really work with Oliver... The dogs have a kid Webb or Williams maybe another, can't remember who but looked to have the raw talent. I'm sure we like all clubs are on the lookout, that's why Langdon's name is popping up.

Yep, I get people expressing their opinions but I think they're not looking at the bigger picture. ...you can't judge him by a game like Friday night which was a glorified game of rugby in many respects. Nor can you go on the outside player reputation he's often tagged with as this year he's shown he can get his own ball. With the changes coming into the game next year, and they will come the game will open out a lot more and it will be imperative to have runners like Gaff. It's probably our biggest weakness. An open forward line is going to be great for us with Tommy Mac, Hogan and Weid, Oliver will be unstoppable around the ball but we still need class runners bringing the ball in.

No, it's a key factor in growth but there's a lot more to it than that. Get the wins but place yourself to take advantage of them, that's the way we will grow. North are a great example of a team who weren't able to translate on-field success to support and memberships.

During PJ's time the President and board have pretty much remained in the background. This year they have had to tick off on 3 big calls...selling off poker machine money, selecting a new CEO and developing a new home base. I'm sure many share my trepidation as previous boards/presidents don't imbue me with confidence but with these decisions best of 3 won't win. All 3 must be winners.

Dill's AFL is a little bit flakey for me, I don't put a lot of store in their acumen. For all his short comings AD did have a clue...

There was rumours of a rift between Jackson & Bartlett a year or so back. I just hope Bartlett's ego is not getting the better of him here. Melbourne Presidents don't have a good record of appointments.

Funnily enough he was the first one to come to my mind...didn't mention him at the time though. Thought he was done with footy. I wonder if the Roos connection played any part? a pity the podcast was before the announcement.

I'm hoping this will be a good appointment as I'm sure we all are. For those worried about negative inside mail from Collingwood people, we got the same negative stuff about PJ from the EFC people on his announcement. If Pert is as big a disaster as PJ has been I will be a happy man.