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I think 4 to 5 may be too many 'Red', there is some good analysis on this. Longer term it might be ok but could push us back a bit in 2019. Port went through big changes this year and struggled, admittedly the quality wasn't what it could be. Collingwood a couple of years back were in the same boat, they stabilised this year and are getting a result. WC have been very stable for a while with minimal player movement. The Tigers have stabilised after a period of instability.

I agree but it's probably more to do with stability in our best 22. So far apart from Hogan being mentioned we don't look like losing those players. Love Vanders but he's fringe best 22, Kent hasn't played a lot and the others were past their use by. I'm not sure that cleaning out the bottom half of the list will have a lot of effect on team chemistry. Adding more than 2 or 3 to the top half of the list could cause problems.

He's a much better footballer than these guys...

Much better player than Kent but will be interesting to see how he is valued. but with GC happy to let him go...who knows where the cards will fall.

Can play...he was really good early in his career. Half back or wing with a bit of class. Forget about the Kelly's of this world, this is exactly the type of trading we need to do.

Why not, it's worked well for them????

Yeah there was actually talk about Cerra wanting to return home before he signed his contract like there was talk before McGovern signed. If we make him a good offer why would he not want to come home and play under a great coach in a premiership contender? What would your thinking be? Play under Goodwin/play under Lyon? Play in Melbourne where I come from, be home with family and friends with a potential great side or stay with cellar dwellers on the other side of the country? He is definitely in the discussion I would think. To give up a player like Hogan then we must get back maximum value.

I think we should more than ask the question...it would be Cerra or bust. I hope we're in his ear now. If they want Hogan they have to pay overs.

Is this something you know 'dazzle'? Maybe in a swap that involved another player? I think Billings is very talented but has been underwhelming at the Saints, it's these type of players I would be looking at if we think we can turn them around.

If true it's very petty. Love her or hate her she is a major media player in football. The club needs to be bigger than this...

@Pennant St Dee, how do you rate Freo's young key defender. Is is Pearce? and is he worth part of the deal? If the story is correct I would be looking at a player plus...a pick or maybe 2 players. We're in the so called window and don't need picks at the moment unless we can on trade them for needs.

Unfortunately if Denham has reported it, then it's likely to be on the money... We're not talking Brad Hardy here, like him or not Denham is a serious journalist and has runs on the board.

Why? I'm not so certain that Brayshaw is what we need by the way... But, back to your point. Hogan is worth a lot to Freo and to us. If we're going to give him up we will need substantial compensation.

Any info on this procedure @Webber

Forget about a couple of years ago 'Earl', there were a few geniuses on here wanting to write him off this year...

This is going to sound like BS from me. ...but I've been meaning to post for a few weeks now that I thought Clayton was not handling the ball as well this year. He's a very clean, one touch player but has not been as clean this season. ... and even though he made AA this season, his ball handling was better last year. That makes sense now, he hasn't been doing contact training for a while. ...the competition better watch out next year. Clarrie will rip it apart.

Mick Warner reporting 'Red'...so pretty reliable.

I don't know about conspiracy 'Travis' but I do know I enjoy any game he umpires less, whether we're in it or not. He makes the game less enjoyable to watch.

A bit like Weed talented. Give him some time 'jumbo'... He's got something to work with.

I think there are actually, but I will defer to the ones on here that are into the champion data stuff. You like making big statements old son, don't you? AA Rance comes to mind, seems to like to sook and whinge quite a bit.

Shai Bolton.... ...been saying this for a while, serious x-factor but has been passed over for Higgins. Worth a look.

Plus he doesn't get enough of the ball...

Was always going to hurt them in the end. Going in with no ruck in the finals campaign was an impressive effort to get to the GF and nearly pull it off. Certainly need to start again with the big man stocks apart from Max of course. Looks like the club agree, picking up Bradtke and approaching Pruess...

Mean spirited I know but I couldn't stand Jeremy Howe being a premiership player. Leaves a bad taste in my mouth the sooking he did about having to play back with us. Half hearted efforts were not appreciated by this supporter. He would be a very handy player for us now playing where Roos identified was his best spot...

Lewis won't play in a 5th 'norm'... If he is still getting a game in 2019 we are going nowhere. He's not going to get any better. Need to know when to fold 'em...