Return to Glory

Yes Demon3, but there was a point there where Viney gets votes and, if you freeze the tape, Oliver blinks not once but twice. Admittedly, it was three rounds later but you cannot tell me it wasn't a deliberate slight.

My biggest take away from the Brownlow - Dane Swan is still a prize [censored]

Rohan wasn't a gun when they got him to be fair

Lol Theo, that's what i think. He said something at one stage like 'that's what I thought i saw' before awarding another Brisbane freekick

I've gone from ambivalent about the result to way too annoyed at the umpiring.

The umpiring in this game is close to the worst I've seen in a final. 10 - 2 Brisbane's way but it's beyond these simple numbers. It's Cats being pinged for everything and Lions being let go. How was the call against Ablett for the shot at goal! You cannot tell me that such lopsided umpiring doesn't effect momentum and then result. The Brisbane in GF narrative is surely a compelling one for the AFL

Little Goffy, you really have articulated what I had been wondering about with your 'example two'....unfortunately, when it gets to draft calculations/permutations, it's like a mist descends upon me. What I take from this is that we can grab another Trent Rivers if our recruiters are on song.

Skuit, by all means encourage Viney but I'm not quite sure when the B & F at a footy club became an encouragement award

Picket, I'm glad someone else said it. I would have had Viney in top ten calculations but third...give me a spell. I know there will be many who will believe it's a small matter. I'm not so sure.

I have no idea whether or not Oliver is disgruntled. But I have to completely agree with you here AF. That B & F result smacks of our coaches viewing games through some kind of distorted reality. And if the coaches can get something so wrong, I'm in turn worried about their ability to make good decisions.

I'd have to agree. Would be very surprised if he took on the role. Wrapped if he did but I wouldn't have thought so.

Yes, but his wife is big on instagram. If anything, should have been reversed.

Well, that settles it. They would know having watched all his games. I get that you don't rate Jack Watts. What I don't get are your desperate attempts to get people to agree with you (which includes 'open your eyes' comments) ...on a Melbourne supporter forum. You asked whether I thought Watts was a good player. Yes, I thought Watts was a good player. At times, he was also a match winner. You can make absurd 'Weideman attacks the ball 100 times harder' statements but that just reinforces that you don't know what you're talking about. I'm not even sure why you thought to bring another player into it.

Sorry Dr D, I was just hanging my Jack Watts collage on the wall. What are you rambling on about this time?

Elegt, too many of your posts are couched in absolutes. i.e referring to Tom Mc Donald as a 'disgrace to the jumper'....just to name one. There have been others. Here's my take. People make mistakes. And it's possible to make mistakes and still be 'a top bloke'. These things are not mutually exclusive. I'd argue that it's fluid for all of us. There's a trend on social media to damn people for all eternity for real and perceived indiscretions. You appear to have embraced this 'cancel culture' and run with it here on Demonland. That's your right of course, it's a forum. But it's (for mine) joyless. And, at it's heart, lazy.

Yes, and that Robbie Flower was a real dud too

Wrong and odious

And because he holds the numbers on the match committee, his son will be commencing at CHF

Yeah, smug twats

I've got a confession. I dislike Geelong more than Collingwood.

You have to admire a side that can go over there and win a final.

What a game!

Unbelievable

Two Birds. Average

When that halfwit Brayshaw said 'they know their football' I nearly threw up in my craft beer