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You realise it doesn't simply work like that right? You must get flabbergasted a lot.

Viney knows how to get the ball just about better than anyone. He doesn't need any advice or to change his approach at all. It's his ability to cover ground, spread from stoppages and truly woeful disposal at times which is the problem. Unfortunately, he has been injured far too often and it won't surprise me to hear post career about how many games he fought through pain. He would be brilliant with a good run but like VDB, I doubt he will ever get it due to the way he plays. But I have to say that I'm [censored] sick of posters asking for him to be traded. Is he the best leader judging by the outside? No, probably not. Is he a leader. Yes. Undeniably. Should a team who lack leadership and have a reputation for being soft trade their captain who would run through brick walls for the club? No. And he certainly doesn't need to change the way he gets the ball.

Yep. Free to a good home token trade.

The pies really don't need him. He wouldn't be a priority signing for them. They have an abundance of similar type players in DeGoey, Stephenson, Mihocek, Thomas, Maine and Hoskin-Elliott.

Please be true.

100% agree with you on this one. He seems to be frozen by fear of making a mistake and turning it over. He doesn't back himself, overthinks his action and then usually coughs it up. I often wonder if he has been over coached or just mentally afraid of stuffing up and being dropped. Morton ended up being the same after a promising first few years. Injuries certainly have played a big role as he hasn't had a decent run of games to gain some confidence.

He is the player GWS should let go. He is the player a struggling club should get. Should we get him? Yes, and that's why I'm not happy about it.

I think I have to turn it off. Dangerfield is annoying the [censored] out of me and he isn't even doing anything.

This is why I don't post in-depth much. I expect people to use their imagination a little. 1. Trade out Pruess 2. Draft 2 rucks. 1 18year old, 1 mature backup. Doesnt matter what picks. I'm well aware that this won't happen and that we will go with Pruess. I just think he is good enough as a 1 ruck to get more game time at another club. It was a weird choice to come to us imo. It's also not an opinion that I really feel that strong about. Just my quick thoughts.

Hmmmm. You could be right. I thought there was another game but can't think of it off the top of my head. I'm Happy to disagree. He's better than a backup and not good enough to be our number 1. He has currency imo and will be wasted at Casey. I have zero faith that he will improve enough as a forward to be much use there. It's ruck or bust.

And that's the issue. He will be paid very well.

I disagree. He showed in the games where Gawn was absent that he is capable of playing number 1 ruck well. It would be a matter of consistency week to week that is unproven IMO. At 24 years old I don't view him as the young developing ruck. I'm also ok with him playing at Casey as insurance.

He is good as a number 1 ruck. Problem is we have an amazing one in his prime already. He has no tank and can't play forward. It was a strange choice for him to want to come to us. We should trade him for a second round pick, use that pick on a young developing ruck and pick up a backup for Max on the rookie list. Or he can ruck at Casey all year unless Max goes down.

To be honest, this season really got to me. I usually watch the Demon game 3 times throughout the week and at least 3 other games of footy per week. My love of the game has finally waivered this year and if we have another terrible year next year I will likely give up following the game. I watched 1 game a week this year. Sometimes it wasn't even our game. The membership isn't going to be automatically renewed for the first time in my adult life.

They looked great didn't they? A great mix of excellent senior players mixed with youth and speed. Hope they win it now that Brisbane are out of it. Things change quickly in football. It was only a few years ago that they cleaned out all assistant coaches and gave Hardwick one more chance.

Me too. It's going to be so sweet when we finally win.

Yes.

Indeed. We picked Viney for round one and he could barely jog.

Damn it... I wish we were good enough to nearly land Dusty.

Oval?

Why?

Open in incognito mode. Basically... Heading to Demons. 4 year deal. Will play as wing.

100% on the same page as you. I have no doubt that an interview would not have made a lick of difference in the outcome. I'm not trying to say that we missed out on the best kid in the draft. Scully was clearly the number 1 pick at the time. The debate at the time was if Trengove or Butcher would be pick 2 and I still think that Trenners would have been great if he wasn't injured. But not even interviewing the other candidates? It makes me angry.

I'm unable to find the smoking gun. I was told that it came directly from Martin's mouth during an interview. Basically the interviewer was discussing how he was a potential number 1 draft pick and Martin said that he knew he wasn't going to Melbourne as they didn't interview him. I did find this. https://www.sbs.com.au/news/dustin-martin-s-afl-dalliances-with-sydney "Every club knew his background but I don't think anybody was scared off by anything. There was no questioning his character and whether to draft him." Yet Melbourne were so confident about the skills of Scully and Jack Trengove they didn't interview Martin. The Tigers have copped plenty in recent years about their various draft failures, but the Demons' mistake is arguably worse given they had the first two picks of 2009. There is another article out there which interviews Predergast where be mentions that he thought Dusty was hot and cold in terms of performance in the draft year.

We didn't even interview Dustin Martin.