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So we are basically doing a CS blue print but under a new coach with new players. Love the kids but not going to threaten anyone outside of the bottoms 8 or make finals with such an inexperienced list. Time to top up with some experience and big bodies who can play decent possession plus run and gun footy off HB. We have a chance to become a serious AFL club that can beat even the likes of the Hawks of we get the mix of youth/experience right in the upcoming drafts. Hope we don't blow it.
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No SatAy chicken tonight then?
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The Jesse Hogan Panic Room - all contract talk here
Demon Dynasty replied to Grapeviney's topic in Melbourne Demons
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The Pies' zone has been minced up on the G by two pretty quick, reasonably small, hard spreading (middle of the rung or lower) teams this season in the Saints and Port. With many 'out the back' goals as a result. Port even used 2 smalls at various stages, one of them Krakouer, to guard and run off Cloke for short stints. Ben offers the extra run, is able to run/slice/and spread for another option through the Pies dodgy zone. Problem is who do you replace him with apart from Harmes who also offers similar run/speed but did have a shocker on the weekend....replacing like with like? (albeit Ben Ken is 10cm smaller...but probably more slippery!). Being young Harmes might also be 'on' this week, and have a decent one. On balance i would say no change. Let the team settle and lets see what they can deliver, giving Harmes (and Jeffy) one extra shot at it this week. Maybe Jeffy through the mid for a few short stints also to try and get some touch and set the cat amongst the Magpies pretty slow (across the ground) mid field.
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Don't mind it but who for?
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Rings a bell. Can anyone confirm this for certain?
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Suspect the club are looking for an answer to their 2nd string genuine tall forward requirement to ensure the opposition's 2nd string Key defender isn't going to Watts OD. They can then utilise him more in a utility role when required (ruck relief with Dawes/Pedo as well as occasional defencive roles). Will also be handy to have the opp's 3rd stringer on Watts. He should shine up forward with that (lessor) match up both physically and on the scoreboard. Roos seems to confirm this here.... ....."Dawesy will probably pinch-hit a little bit in the ruck, but we haven’t been unhappy with what Wattsy’s (Jack Watts) doing, but it gives us a bit more flexibility with Dawesy down there,” he said on Melbourne TV’s Roos’ Views. “We had [Justin] Westhoff against us on the wing last weekend, so it would’ve been nice to play Jack [Watts] on the wing against Westhoff. So there are some things that we can do with Dawesy, but predominantly he’s a forward and then we can ruck either Wattsy or Dawesy. Pedo seems to have gone the way of the dodo bird like Dunn this year. Must have P'd someone off. Personally i think Pedo is the better option if Dawes isn't being utilised in the ruck. Can't afford the old single role player anymore unless he's a super star. Pedo can play forward, back and ruck relief. Having said that, we should be looking to recruit a better 2nd string genuine tall forward to replace both. Dixon would have been very handy me thinks.
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1 game back after another long lay off. Doubt he was ever going to play a big role in the ruck this week. Lets see how things pan out over the next few weeks once he's had a few matches to get fully match fit and the bod remains in one piece. If they're not going to play him as a pinch hitter ruckman (as Roos has suggested), and i think they eventually will, then Pedo is a must in once fit.
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Roos on the selection of Dawes/Forst for the Hawks match..... ....."Dawesy will probably pinch-hit a little bit in the ruck, but we haven’t been unhappy with what Wattsy’s (Jack Watts) doing, but it gives us a bit more flexibility with Dawesy down there,” he said on Melbourne TV’s Roos’ Views. “We had [Justin] Westhoff against us on the wing last weekend, so it would’ve been nice to play Jack [Watts] on the wing against Westhoff. So there are some things that we can do with Dawesy, but predominantly he’s a forward and then we can ruck either Wattsy or Dawesy. “Frosty, we’ve been playing down back in the VFL team, and he comes in really to replace Col Garland, as that third tall with Oscar McDonald, Tom McDonald and Frost.
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And Pedo can! o.O
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The telling one for me CBD Is the extra pressure they're forwards put on Inside 50. Wonder If this has been the case with most of our games so far. Have we ever got the forward pressure side to a decent standard In this regard since It arrived big time I wonder?
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Some early touch through the mid couldn't hurt Hood and i've seen some very nice cameos from Garlo there, albeit they rarely give him a run there. Can't recall seeing him play through there y'day. FD might be worried about him getting hammered or something so are reluctant to play him there too often. I reckon his pace through there adds a diff look for the opponent at times and would be a nice, occasional, change up and maybe help warm him up for better work closer to goal when he goes back again. I also seem to recall him playing occasionally off HB for the Blues and coming through the mid on some mad runs (and a few running goals!) if my memory serves me correctly. We don't seem to try any of that.
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Touche'! May have thrown down a few many decades ago Demi. Not so much these days
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Yes i said that also Bing. In total agreement. Had a shocker yesterday but others do that also and get follow up games. Like Kent in Round 2 against the Bombers. Horror match but came out the next week against Norf and probably was in our best 10 players that day. Up and down since then. Frost a shocker in the game against Norf. Came out against the Pies and played ok the week after. Another below par game against the Toiges and a shocker against the Saints. Then dropped (maybe for match up reasons though , who knows). Going to happen with the young blokes. Takes seasons as you know to come up to speed and find any consistency. In the case of Jacky boy it took 7. Not sure if lessor lights (ie., not No.1 picks) will get that much leeway to come good though. Based on y'days performance Harmes probably out for Newton. But on his previous 3 to 4 weeks, especially the Lions in Rnd 9, i would say no. Wasn't the worst last week (but still ordinary) where i would have placed him on a par (roughly) performance wise in that match (ONLY) with say Tyson/Wagner. Just part of what comes with playing young blokes. Thereabouts one week, cloke of invisibility the next (or the one after lol).
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4 against the Lions a few weeks ago Gorg. Garlett hasn't bounced back since his last decent game against the Suns 5 rounds back. Def our best small forward when he's on but his form has dropped away since that match. Can't see him being dropped.
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You mean this one Demi
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No argument there Bing and Harmes was easily in our bottom 2 WOG y'day. Had him as 2nd worst. You may have missed the rest of my post (and other earlier posts saying this about Harmes' overall game y'day).... ..."Had an ugly day but he wasn't the worst clanger offender".... "......Others tend to get away with more of them (or similar levels) though as their other work more than makes up for it (eg., Vince/Jones/Tyson) on the day and some others are no doubt coach's favs so wouldn't matter how badly they went ie., they've locked away enough brownie points from previous efforts/or they are playing a role (not a chico!) better than others apparently, which some would say is fair enough. Some are also just more involved in general play through the mid (like Harmes) and on such an ugly day are likely to turn it over a fair bit.
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Willmoy be careful what you read on here
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On Clangers alone you are spot on Saty. Had an ugly day but he wasn't the worst clanger offender. Others tend to get away with more of them (or similar levels) though as their other work more than makes up for it (eg., Vince/Jones/Tyson) on the day and some others are no doubt coach's favs so wouldn't matter how badly they went ie., they've locked away enough brownie points from previous efforts/or they are playing a role (not a chico!) better than others apparently, which some would say is fair enough. Some are also just more involved in general play through the mid (like Harmes) and on such an ugly day are likely to turn it over a fair bit. Leading clanger count from y'day down to Harmes... Vince 8, Tyson 6, Frost 6, Jones 5, Omac 5, Harmes 4
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Easily in our best 22 at this point BZ
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Newton for Kent....Ben Ken for Garlett
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You have my vote. Today's game cant afford a one dimensional forward. Watts a great example of that. We will see what the FD has in store for Dawes if he stays on the park after another week or so.
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Easily the worst (still in the side) in terms of averages/output in the last 4 weeks Titan. If he performed reasonably yesterday i would agree with you. 4 in a row with a horror 4th game in there... Ben Ken time!!!
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Ben Ken for Garlett! WOO HOOOOOO! Go you beauty!
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Based on the fact that he isn't performing in other aspects of his game....yes. Otherwise what is he there for?