Demon Dynasty

He couldn't be that silly surely SW? The jungle drums and those around must surely have pushed back with some urgency and constructive criticism, especially at the mid season internal review? As for the last part i agree. Part of the issue again lies with a very suspect list that fails to place enough pressure on those up the line to maintain their spot. They might be looking at the bottom half of the list and feeling pretty safe/comfy that a reasonable output, even if it's just most game days, will see them keep their place. One of many dissappointing aspects of Goody's coaching this year for me was the fact that most players, including plenty of seniors, played so many ordinary matches but Goody backed them in. Ok i get that seniors are seniors for a reason and have some credits banked. A few have plenty! All fine IF you eventually see a bounce within a reasonable time. But for many, this went on for the entire season! I realise the extent of injuries impacted normal proceedings also, but for the sake of the player's confidence, learnings and a regain of form. And as a statement to the rest of the group, you have to eventually make a call and send a big name or two downstairs for a break, to reset and send a message to the group that enough is enough. Actions always speak louder. After the QB fail this should have happened with T-Mac and Gus as a bare minimum. Viney and Jones weren't far behind them on occasions either. This is where i disagree with co-captaincy as the coach must feel he is rusted on with another player vs one Captain only. Anyway we can talk and pontificate forever. The proof of the 'turn around pudding' will be in the eating and on show for all in the first half of 2020.

Where did he say that oli?

We needed to consolidate after 2018 and fell flat SW for a myriad of reasons, some reasoning and explanations already covered infinitum. The hierarchy have gone 'all in' on Goody and the fluff pieces coming from the club are all happy happy joy joy as you say. I suspect they will stick by their decision unless we get to a point in 2020 where there is obviously no significant bounce and there is no choice but to act. Until then we just need to put our faith in those up top that the hand they're holding is a ripper and not an ugly bluff. So far they're saying it's all steady as she goes, with only some adjustments needed. Of course very few clubs and their reps have been known to tell any porky pigs before so why would our lot be any different! In some ways you have to ask is there any other choice than to guild the lilly a little? After such a shocker this year we aren't exactly in a position of strength to trade our way up the ladder a few places had we finished the year off a little more respectably, say somewhere from 9th to 12th. We have truly shot ourselves in the foot with such a mega drop off and will have to again offer substantial overs to trade in anyone required that offers decent pedigree to help with a hopeful bounce. The appointment of Richo? Looks handy and hopefully two heads (alternate experienced brain/voice) will help with pre-game match ups, selections and possibly on game day if that's part of his gig. There is also a little kicker there that a caretaker option is available should we find ourselves in another cocoon of horror by Rnd 10 to 12 next season. Other than maybe Rawlings, that back up wasn't there prior. Outside of a major change up &/or an addition to the present chaos game style required across the FD, it goes without saying that a substantial clean up of this list (way beyond the minimal cull so far) is required and a serious injection of outside talent, skills, speed and X factor needed in the next two or three trade periods to turn the club into a serious contender. If we can score a few wins in the trade period to fill a few holes, Goody adjusts/adds to the style in the off season and Burgess can get some players to another level or back to thier previous best, who knows we might look back on 2019 as a blip. Either way we will have an indication by the final siren Rnd 1 and a much better idea by Rnd 6 to 8 as to which way things are headed.

Mostly at the beginning where he was asked about the exit and said he left on very good terms. Still best mates with Goody & still staying in touch with some players who he missed. Said the club had an off year and expects them to bounce back. Left on good terms purely to pursue a coaching career outside. After 15 years in the system he felt it was time even from around 6 months ago. No mention of what went down or wrong and how/why during the year in any sense.

All good. The Mods installed a player sensitive crapolla filter long ago to ensure that never happens!

Wants to come kiss and make up EO!

I was hoping Gerard might ask a few questions along those lines SW but alas. Is probably under some sort of confidentiality agreement anyway.

The Adelaide review has barely commenced and Tex has rescinded the captaincy already!

For good reason. Heard on the grapeviney he had to as he's about to sign with us!

One stat i thought interesting was kicking the first 3 to 4 goals you win approx 75% of matches. Something that's frustrated me as much as any issue over the decades are our far too common sluggish starts. Getting behind by 5 to 6 is also not unusual ?

Dust off your old boots PF. You're up in 2020!

As long as we don't see Shane anywhere near the place.

Club / Pert etc might be thinking it's best to put a little space / separation between the horror that was 2019 (related Co Captains) and the hope / optimism they need to build for 2020 (Big Maxy) LH. Bit of water under the bridge. Heal a few wounds, then give Maxy some clean air and a fresh start into 2020.

We should have passed this point point prior to this trade period 58er. We are a year behind at fine tuning/trimming the tail end of many NQRs. That delay is impacting/restricting our ability to take the next step up and unless seriously addressed we are likely to continue to dead cat bounce. Part of our poor performance this year stems very much from a lack of quality competition coming from underneath. Competition for spots in the bottom 6 to 8 places at the better clubs (top 8 or so) is usually very intense, forcing the less established players to really push harder and up their game or be leap frogged by those pressing to take their place. Pressure to retain spots very much lacking this year. Partly a quality of list factor built in from 2018. Add to this the never ending injuries which meant just about anyone, even those who showed a smidgen of form at Casey, were getting a call up. To the point that in the case of some, they were getting a recall even when they hadn't truly earnt it. In summary this list is in need of a major overhaul over the next two to three trade periods IF we are to become a regular finals contender and compete with the big boys.

My understanding Bin is the attempt (training/effort/emphasis) to up the amount of possession / tempo game style commenced during the 10 day break after the Rnd 6 match against the Tigers. https://www.sbs.com.au/news/demons-use-extended-afl-break-to-reset Goody pretty much put the cue in the rack vs the Tiges, looking to defend defend defend with numbers behind the ball and T-Mac switched to defence for the first time in the season in order to prevent a blow out looming post the Saints debacle. On the 10 day break he then went back to type, focussing mainly on his usual 2018 contested brand /style with more emphasis on numbers at the ball (possibly bringing a forward out on occasions for a +1 at stoppages but that's pure conjecture on my part and i would need to go back to the replays) and two way running (where we clearly continued to struggle with transition) but playing on at break neck wherever possible. In other words, not that different really....just some re-focus, re-emphasis on extra numbers/winning contested and transitioning to i50 a little more quickly without trying to be so precise (more chaos if that was possible!??). As you say, Goody then 'attempted' (my emphasis) to add an extra layer of possession/ tempo on top after the 10 day break but post the Hawks in Rnd 7. Unfortunately too little too late. Our ability to carry it off for more than a few minutes on limited occasions wasn't there, most likely due to a lack of time available in between matches to train it as a group. Almost impossible to pull off mid season. Add to this a lack of pre-season fitness among too many at the time including the two captains. The 10 day break and the bye the only genuine times that would have allowed a reset and to train the 'new layer' into whoever was available at the time. In summary i agree that there was an attempt to commandeer an increase in minutes using a possession / tempo option to the game style. However, my understanding is that the extra training to increase the minutes attempting to use it in game may have commenced during the 10 day break. Not after the bye. When you say you are surprised that most DL posters didn't notice. I'm not at all as it was very stepped and gradual post the 10 day break / Hawks match and we mostly couldn't sustain it for more than a few odd minutes on random occasions. Occasionally yes, it worked a treat in some parts of some matches but like most aspects of our game this season, it was continually picked apart by the opp and/or we just failed to execute for long enough and perpetually gave the ball straight back.

My dog often says that on his morning walks. And proud of it.

Correct. 10% off last year but moved up the rankings by 3 places. Tended to play the first half as a HHF looking to mop up ground balls and score (conversion poor so that part didn't factor in much) so might explain part of that drop off statistically vs a little more work between the arcs last season, racking up a few more numbers? In a horrible year where many fell away around him i would say he held his own. But yes, this year we would want it to be the year of the Traccattack. The time is now. Also correct on both counts but, as NS just posted, he needs a bigger tank. Certainly not expecting a T$ or Kelly type motor but the tank needs improving nonetheless. If Burgess, the FD and Tracc himself don't find this in the off season then shame on them all. It's easily the most obvious change that needs to be added to his game and to convert that explosive power & balance into more damaging mid field minutes in 2020 and beyond.

Burgess, a bit of a look in the mirror and some adjustments on the track will hopefully fix that. Should be a gun by now and showed he is close on occasions this season. 2020 is the year we need to see a big break out from the Traccattack in the mid field! Potential game changer if he does. Gus, Clarry and Tracc in the mid field! Yes please. Defensive lock down work from Viney on some of the Opp's big stars like Dusty, Danger, Pendles and the Bont and we get ourselves competitive once more. Up and firing at their best with some game style and structural adjustments with some outside run added to the mix and could take us into a finals series. But then there's always our abysmal forward line / craft. Boy do we have some work to do on list and other factors. Should be a very hectic off season!

Not a chance unless it was a clincher to seal a deal for a marquee must get 'missing ingredient' star player and possibly the difference between making a GF or not. Or maybe a few! eg; Jeremy Cameron or Tim Kelly.

The rumours of Lever Vic bound were rife well before the GF. Even if he had a decent game, and tbh i can't recall as i don't bother too much when i see interstates playing off, the Crow B&F votes would have been tainted. This from Jarman on 24 Aug 2017 ... “He’s already packed up. He’s going to go to the Melbourne Football Club. They’re not far off from playing for premierships. “I’m telling you now, he is goneski. And he’s goneski for a lot of money. He’s going for the money. “You can’t blame the young man because that’s why he’s going, he’s going for the money. The money is magnificent.”

Curcumstances dictate. If he wasn't Co Captain in such a flop of a season i would fully agree Mydee. Need to choose words a little more carefully if for nothing more than a club PR assist in what might be a very tricky off season trying to sell hope to existing and potential members/supporters. If you aren't going to bother then probably best to say stuff all.

One could argue our best 22 this year was pretty poor in general Jones but statistically at least he was well within the best 22. A poor year by Jones's standards though.