Jaded No More

Some trade suggestions for both? Would you be interested in Jamar, since you're still desperate for a ruckman?

COLLINGWOOD B: Tarkyn Lockyer, Shane Wakelin, Brodie Holland HB: Heath Shaw, Harry O’Brien, Rhyce Shaw C: Scott Pendlebury, Paul Medhurst, Leon Davis HF: Nick Maxwell, Travis Cloke, Alan Didak F: Dane Swan, Anthony Rocca, Ben Johnson Foll: Josh Fraser, Shane O’Bree, Scott Burns I/C: Dale Thomas, Tyson Goldsack, Alan Toovey, Shannon Cox, Paul Licuria, Danny Stanley, Chris Bryan In: Shane Wakelin, Paul Licuria, Danny Stanley, Shannon Cox, Chris Bryan Out: Simon Prestigiacomo (injured – foot), Guy Richards (omitted) Match-ups: Rocca- Holland Didak- Bell (looking forward to this one) Cloke- Carroll We could probably drop Frawley, although it won't do us any favours in the long run. Rather rest Yze for another week, and play Frawley... even if it means playing him on the wing in bursts to create some more run. If Davey doesn't come up for whatever reason, I have a feeling we'll see Buckley debut. Am looking forward to Neita giving Wakelin the run around. And no Clement means Robbo should be free to run wild.

Final bench prediction: PJ, Petterd, Frawley, Holland Buckely making it onto the extended bench means he'll debut in the next month. Exciting stuff!

Rip off! Miller for Reiwoldt & Dal Santo Jamar for Judd Ward for Pavlich Brown for Brown (Brisbane) Bizzell's Hollywood career for Leigh Matthew's coaching career.

Because he is home sick? Because he doesn't agree with the culture of the club? Because he is sick of the media circus surrounding the activities of his teammates? Because he wants a new challenge? Because he misses his mum's cooking? Because Rebecca Twiggly wants to start a TV career in Melbourne? There could be a million and one reasons why he would want to leave. A desire to play for his old club and lead them to a premiership could be one factor, but it might not actually help us get him. Not unless he says "deal with Melbourne, or I'm going into the PSD".

28 in September (Born: 30/9/1979) And how do you know that Judd will say he only wants to come to Melbourne? And even if he does, do you think other clubs are still not going to bombard West Coast with offers? Nobody is going to sit back and watch the best player in the competition go to Melbourne without a fight. And we ALWAYS need good players at Melbourne. Always.

Exactly. And your assessment of our midfield is spot on. Junior is nearing the end, TJ is erratic, Green is better suited to the wing (he is not an inside ball winner), while Bruce is already 28. So that leaves McLean and Jones as long term options. Who helps them out? I wouldn't say no to Reiwoldt, hell, I'd welcome him with open arms despite his obvious downfalls, but the reality is, he'd cost us as much as Judd, and we'd be fighting for him with 8 over Victorian clubs. Whereas if Judd nominates Melbourne as his next home, it will reduce the bidding war significantly and will put us in a much better bargaining position. Dal Santo will most likely get lost in the madness that is having Judd, Pavlich and Reiwoldt out of contact, so we might get a good deal for him.

I'm not a Reiwoldt fan. He is an excellent mark but an ordinary kick. Also don't forget that it takes a good midfield to get the supply down to the forwards. We have a good midfield, but we are still lacking another talented ball-winner who knows how to use the ball. Dal Santo fits the bill, and won't cost us an arm and a leg. He will also help take the heat off TJ, McLean and Jones. Obviously Judd and Pavlich are much more appealing than these two, but we will have to trade some of our big name players to land them. Are you prepared to do that?

Which means anything from a broken bone, to OP, to pulled muscle, to toothache, to "we're trying to confuse Collingwood". 'General soreness' is probably the most useless injury term in AFL. Which player doesn't have general soreness at Round 11?

All-Australian defender James Clement and Heath Shaw are both out of contention, with their respective calf and corked-thigh injuries. Paul Licuria, who tore a hamstring in Round 4, trained at top pace in his bid to convince the selectors his one game back with Williamstown last weekend is enough preparation to earn a recall. Key defender Simon Prestigiacomo was again missing with a continuing foot problem, but he is expected to take his place in the side. Read more here

Well if he is set to play, clearly it isn't too bad. He is definitely carrying something though. Just read that Shaw and Clement are out, while Presti is in doubt and obviously so is Buckley (if he plays, get Carroll to tackle him at the first bounce and he's out of there). I'm looking forward to Robbo dominating, now that Clement is not playing.

Rather Nick Dal Santo, than Nick Riewoldt. Would cost us less, and will make just as much of an impact.

Daniel Ward? What are you nuts? Don't let the Saints rip you off this way! From that article- out of contract at the end of the year are: Chris Judd - HELL YES! Nick Dal Santo - Yes Dale Thomas- No Josh Fraser- No Paul Hasleby- Meh Matt Maguire- Yes Luke McPharlin- Meh Campbell Brown- Yes Adam Cooney- Yes Jamie Charman- Yes depending on price (we need a ruckman!) Andrew Lovett- No Des Headland- Hell no Warren Tredrea- Dear god no Heath Shaw- No Matthew Pavlich- YES and YES Nick Riewoldt- Yes

Yep, there are plenty of players who I'd get rid of first. He is good depth, if nothing else. Drove past Junction Oval just now on my way back from uni, and saw Davey walking around and he looked perfectly fine. So lets hope the knee is right and he is playing on Monday!

I know, I was talking about this season. He is still eligible, and I wanna see him recognised for his good work by getting nominated again.

Oi, I'm only thinking about the future of his club! Do you want lots of great F/S selections, or not? There is no 'I' in team...

Come on tell us who's right, the suspense is killing me! Bryon is a good call actually, except I doubt anyone would dare call him 'chicken legs' to his face <_<

They're keeping a lid on him

I wouldn't bother defending that comment. I doubt anybody who watches Melbourne games would actually agree with the notion. I don't know what's sadder, the fact that I keep typing his name wrong, or the fact that you've searched how many times I've done it! Leave me alone, I was on the phone and trying to drink my coffee all the while typing. It also explains why I forgot to mention Ward. A definite favourite of our coach.

Jared Rivers? Ahahahaha! :D:D

Yep, in no particular order, Daniher's favourites appear to be: McDonland Brown Godfrey Heffernan

What I want to know is, why hasn't Jonesy been nominated yet? We know he is still eligible, and he's had some really standout games this year. If a nomination doesn't come soon, I won't be happy! Anyone have Ricky's odds of winning the whole thing? As for Gibbs, he is as arrogant as they come and has his head so far up his proverbial, he'd give Nathan Buckley a run for his money. Will certainly be a player though.

I laughed... Collingwood's Injury List: James Clement (calf) - test Simon Prestigiacomo (foot) - test Heath Shaw (corked thigh) - test Ryan Lonie (groin) - 1 week Nathan Buckley (hamstring) - 2-3 weeks Chris Dawes (knee) - 4 weeks Chris Egan (knee) - 10-12 weeks Sean Rusling (shoulder) - indefinite John Anthony (neck) - season Would be brilliant if Clement doesn't pull up, as he tends to do a good job on Robbo. Buckley won't play, you can forget it.

What happened to Chris Johnson?

And Bartram only 1-2 weeks away! :D Sure, it's more like a month away since he'll need at least 2 matches at Sandy, but I can't wait for Clint to return. He's been sorely missed!