PaulRB

Hear is an Idea, we win 8 games in the second half of THIS season and finish 11th while developing and showing that Jack Viney is a top 3 draft pick. Then sit back and show the forks to the rest of the AFL as we pick him up with pick 7 or 8 in the Draft. Cake and eating it. Fook em

The fact that they have begun their "negotiations" via manager and media now means that both want to close a deal with Melb soon. Otherwise you'd hold tight, say nothing, while having a quiet word with potential suitors. They will be signed on inside a month. It's in MFC's court.

Given they are "restricted free agents" to keep them MFC would simply have to equal the offer of the other club? If so, it seems Moloney (and Jamar?) are simply looking to leverage more cash from the MFC. That said, if a club offers more then the MFC are willing to pay and walks to another club, what is the likely compensation under the free agency rules?

or Jack was targeting Wojo..?

17 year old, and I know a good dentist.

Clark is at the other end of the intensity spectrum to Jack at the moment, his aggressive tackling (double tackle on boundary in third) and attack on the ball were awesome against the Dogs. I'd be keeping Jack in the Casey team till he can consistently replicate that level of aggro (same for Liam)...

Jack Viney

He lacks physical confidence. He slows down and props in pack or contested situations where he should speed up an hit the ball/opposition with momentum. It's no longer about actual size etc... but is confidence that using his body aggressively is the correct choice. Alot of not naturally aggressive junior players have to learn the joy of using their body, and it will take time. No doubt he'll get it.

Only way to deal with the good Dr's mental musing is to ignore him, and in time he'll find another forum to indulge him for a while.

WTF

I agree with your analysis. My measurement is how many of the 4 quarters are in one of the following three categores 1. We're a Rabble 2. We're ok 3. We kick ass The negative results you mentioned included at least one quarter of 1. (rabble). 186 was four quarters of this... The positive results have been 4 quarters of 2. (ok). I'm yet to see a quarter of 3. If we can avoid any quarters of 1. for the next 6 weeks we will have truly stabalised and turned the corner, with a couple of quarters of 3. next on the agenda.

I'd hold on to all our ruck stocks, Jamar most of all. They take time and none have seriously challenged the Russian for the No# 1 position yet. The issue is then how do we fend off possible interest from a flag contending club with ruck issues and not stuff up our player payment balance/strategy? or maximise the return?

While our form at the moment implies pick 3 in the draft. Should we get o a roll in the 2nd half of the season, it would look like there would be no way of pushing Jack back to the second round. If so, what would we do re first four picks (i.e. trade for No#1 U17, experienced hands)?

As Gimli would say ""certainty of death, small chance of success... what are we waiting for?" Couldn't be worse that last year, and if we do snag a win it would be monumental.

James Podsiadly (facial soreness) ha ha ha

The hardest part of Neeld's take over is complete, the recalcitrants have been outed or turned to the cause. Now we need time for the new plan to bear fruit...

15th West Coast Hawthorn Carlton Freo Geelong Swans Pies Roos

scarred and numb. scared and dumb. both work for me.

Our third against the Dogs was the best quarter this year. Crowd perked up, players were busy and leadership was provided (Clarke and Moloney)... four of those and we'll give the Saints a run.

I think the pain we're suffering from the transition to Neeld's game plan/style has been exacerbated by lack of experienced leaders, unfit/immature bodies in our younger players and lack of confidence stemming from 2011 and the challenges of learning a new game plan, etc... These challenges are short term and the worm will turn this season on the above issues. The more critical question is, was this dramatic re-focusing on contested ball, defensive structures and roles required now and will it deliver a flag faster than the approach Bailey was taking? My sense is that it will, simply because contested ball and the ability to soak up an oppositions surge is the heart of finals footy.

That does hurt... we'd be ahead of Bombers and Pies though...

Was wondering about the MFC's early years and came across the "Caledonian Challenge Cup" which was the football competition from 1862 to 1876 (when the VFA was formed). During this period we won the Challenge Cup 5 times. Given we now proudly claim our history back to the origi of the game and the establishment of our club in 1858, why not claim those cups as well...?

I was hoping for a crying room myself.

Stay positive, keep working and the worm will turn. I for one, am keen to be there when it does. And it may be this week...

Who cares what outsiders to the MFC think. We were fleeced by the AFL when they took our bird in the hand (Scully) and offered us two birds in the bush (draft) as compo. If we maximise the value of that "deal" then all the smarter us...