Moonshadow

Hopefully Leuie doesn't draw a high compo selection if/when he goes. I would've thought beginning of second round might his value at best. Pick 20.

Freeman, Kol?

There's still time, but it needs to happen.

I believe Jack Watts did not pole a vote and NicNat got a few. Oops.... can of worms about to open...

Hard to argue against those facts. Not an even competition, getting less so every year. Even fleeting success does not ensure survival beyond the next TV rights. Does anyone think that a premiership by the Western Bulldogs in the next 3 years will lead to security? They'll breathe easier for a while, sure, but not for long. I actually admire Nth Melb. They won 2 flags under Pagan and have made the finals numerous years since, including the last 2, but IMO are only a couple of bottom 6 finishes away from perpetual Struggletown. The late 1980s and 1990s were a golden era where the competition was expanding and the opportunities (on and off field) for clubs that made the right choices could create sustained success. Most teams had periods down the bottom half, but clubs that rebound the quickest and managed themselves well put themselves in the best place to become the 'power' clubs of the future. Sometimes it's multiple flags, like Hawthorn or Geelong, or excellent marketing and branding, like Collingwood, or cornering the local market, like WCE and Adelaide. The reasons are not black and white and there's certainly exceptions, but it's clear that the competition for long term success is hardest for struggling clubs such as WB, North, Melbourne, St K and the clubs from NSW and Qld. What would be the best ongoing outcome for our club? The more the Dees have struggled over the last 10 years, the more that I've come to the conclusion that one or two flags are not enough. As much as one flag would be a dream come true, it's no longer enough. The market and the game have changed overwhelmingly since our last premiership. How do we become a 'power' club?

Played more games than Gysberts.

Hope you wiped down your keyboard after posting that hh

Worth noting that with perhaps 5 academy players in the top 20, those clubs will have to satisfy the AFL's convoluted formulae to find the right balance for these selections. This could result in them deciding the price is too high and eventually passing, or they might have to trade to create the points to get them (correct me please if I have misunderstood how it works). Both outcomes might benefit us.

Very well spoken and humble acceptance speech. Worthy winner.

Mick Molloy was very unfunny.

Hogan! Vanders!

A mate of mine who knew Don Cordner well told me the story of his Brownlow win in 1946. Obviously no TV then, nor live coverage on radio I believe. Said that Cordner got a phone call from an VFL clerk the following morning asking him to come down to VFL HQ without mentioning the reason. When he got there the clerk told him he won the Brownlow and pulled the medal out of his desk drawer. Then he left with a handshake. No fanfare, no black tie, no WAGS.

Jonesy!!!

Lol! A Melbourne fan claiming that 2 wins in a finals series from 8th place doesn't mean much! Now I've heard it all.

Many Chooks in Perth?

Who's going to win and who will be the highest placed Dee? And your smokey? I think Danger will win (just) over Fyfe. Vince most votes for MFC. My smokey is Goldy.

My mistake dc

He not my preference dc. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Ok then, how about Bugg + Scully and their second rounder for our first rounder?

Next to you anyone on here is an Einstein

Cracker of a gf too. Think she is some sort of Sth American model.

How about Bugg and their second rounder for our first rounder?

Derr! It's a given, everyone looks good in a Melbourne jumper!

Pretty much.