Moonshadow

On a serious thread about sexual assault, it might be a good idea to lay off the jokes, however innocuous the intent.

Talk only. Nothing in writing.

Prestia, yes. O'Meara and his pre-geriatric knee, no.

Do I detect a nasty tone DA?

Who?

Plough is the Oprah Winfrey of trade talk. Only I'd rather listen to Oprah.

"Get around me! #hotpies"

What if saints gave up 5 and Ess gave up Belinda plus the second rounder they got from us? Effectively becomes saints get their man plus pick 25 and give up pick 5, we get Milkshake and give up 25, Ess get pick 5 and give up the two players.

Only two keys working on your typewriter picket?

While not a great player by any means, I thought Fitzy was still developing and showed some good potential. He's a neat mark out in front, fast on the lead, can often create scoring shots out of nothing, over 200cm and this year added defensive skills to his game. Aware he's been on the list for a number of years, but big guys often peak around 25/26/27yrs. Was starting to put on size but didn't throw his weight around. I thought he was worth hanging onto, maybe as a rookie, certainly for depth. However, I believe the tunnel ball incident marked him (Roos singled it out in the after game presser) and we didn't see much of him after that. Got to trust Roos and Goodwin on this one, I guess. No biggie either way.

I think ASAD said all bets are off and penalties would start afresh. Maybe because they did not plead guilty and maybe because the time 'served' wasn't away from the club. They were still training and attending functions during off season.

Hale, Lake and Anderson might create room

Er, shouldn't your sig read "bitterer than ever" or "more bitter than ever"? The bigger bit is a given.

I don't mind the deal. Second round pick in a weak draft for an experienced player that we know can play at AFL level. He finished top 5 in Essendon's 2013 b&f and was a high draft pick. The potential is there and if Roos and Goodwin think they can turn him around then I support the trade. FFS he actually wants to play for us. Few others do. Would rather have him than keep Howe or Toumpas or any other player who wants to play elsewhere.

Given he's contracted, how would he get to the psd hh?

Craig Bradley

Uncle Bitter being referred to as a Country Member. Ha! As Gough once famously said, "yes, I remember"

Not sure that being best friends is a factor in draft choices Song, but I share your reflective pain.

Then pick 3 to GWS and a bucket full of dosh to Treloar. Money talks. Thus this trade/draft period we might come out with Treloar, Ben Kennedy, Milkshake (for 2nd round pick), late second rounder for Toumpas, possibly a second rounder if Watts is traded. Use two second rounders and a third rounder in draft. If believed good enough, Jake Lovett as F/S late pick or rookie.

What you all don't know is Biffen's real name is Chris and he has a pre pubescent voice. Problem solved. Next.

Last hour offer by GWS when they knew it would be too hard to get the deal through. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Howe was away on his annual leave and couldn't be reached. Kock teaser offer.

Agreed. We know he can do it, but has looked disheartened the last couple of years. WTF wouldn't after the pharmacy led saga of Hird et al. I think it's well worth it if he doesn't get stung by WADA. I trust Roos and Goodwin to get the best out of him.

So now it ok to attack someone personally as long as it's on a footy post? I clearly remember Nasher saying that abuse via pm was no different to abuse on an open thread. Please don't tell us that you've never called anyone personal names or belittled posters now Stuie. Done it countless times, as ManDee noted above. You seem to conveniently forget your own indiscretions when it suits. None of us are angels.

Because there are other clubs that have psd picks before us. Is he under contract at Ess?