Winners at last

Apart from his other attributes, he has a real football brain. In the last qtr (I think) Bater was running in towards goal from the angle. I think he was considering handing it off to Liam, but Liam pointed towards goal to tell him to keep going. The over the head goal while sitting of the ground was Jakovich like.

I agree with Dale Kerrigan (or whatever the guy's name is) regarding the supposed trade value of the players always mentioned on this site. Players like Bruce, Robbo, Bartram, Newton, Johnson. Bell et al have no trade value. McLean & Jones would have some trade value, but late second round at best. Miller may have limited value. Petterd may have some value, but I'd hate to see him leave.

He's always done well in matches against Demons. Although his opponent was often Nicho. Should have a good career in the media, seems a great bloke with a good personality. Not a meathead like so many others, e.g. Taylor or boring e.g. Reiwoldt.

_________________________________________________________ Dimmy, perhaps suspensions were academic having regard to lack of votes?

_______________________________________________________ Sorry old chap, but those were the words of Sgt Schultz, not Col. Klink.

__________________________________________________________ Chillax HT!! BTW, what's a 'flying continental'?

I don't understand why so many posters on this site refer to McLean as Brock. Bruce, MacDonald et all are all referred to by their surnames. Others by their nicknames, e.g. Robbo. It seems to be trend with players with dorky Christian names. The classic case of this was Gehrig, who was often referred to as Fraser.

Close the door on your way out Belly.

I couldn't get to the match yesterday. Did Tredrea give one of his famous bows?

Agreed that Moloney played well, but a coupla poor handballs from him were really damaging. One landed at a teammate's feet and the other missed the target. Pretty sure the first cost a goal. Minor point, but to get to next level (which I think he can), precise disposal required.

Thanks for your efforts over the years Wheaters, but time to move on.

________________________________________________________________________________ ____________________________________ Aah yes, Hoppy. Hoppy was actually included in the list of 150 legends!! Unbelievable. I think Hoppy is a good bloke, and a mate of Lyon/Connolly et al, so perhaps that list should have been "150 legends and/or good blokes and/or mates of Lyon/Connolly et al"? Back to Bartram. He may well be a top bloke, a great trier/trainer etc, but the days of players with poor skills are gone. I agree with the comparison with Simon Godfrey. If he hasn't got it, he hasn't got it. Turnovers are murder. skilled sides punish skill errors. Sides with premiership aspirations can't afford them, unless they otherwise have a team full of champions. I don't post very often these days, so I'll this opportunity to have a coupla whinges. There are some players who are very much whipping boys on this site. Miller, for example. And deservedly so. However there are posters who jump to their defence. Fair enough, that's their opinion. But Miller may play a series of poor matches, then play one good one (e.g. his match against fellow poor side, richmond) which supposedly is enough to make those criticising Miller "eat their words". Sorry, but one swallow doesn't make a summer. Those supporting Miller still rely on his passable effort against Barry Hall years ago. He played an ok game, but Hall kept kicking points (from recollection) which made Miller's effort look better. Miller can't be more than he is; a passable footballer and a great bloke with a good looking partner. But the future of the team? I don't think so. I can't stand posters who murder the English language. My pet hate is "could of", "would of". Punters, it's "could have" and "would have"!! I presume that no-one is still reading this rant. So I'll move on to Hawthorn supporters. So many of them are bagging their team. FGS, they delivered a premiership!!!!!!!! I've followed Melbourne since 1964. 'nuff said. I don't ask for much. Just one premiership.

I really liked him as a player, my favourite player for about 10 of his 14 or so years as a player. He definitely wasn't soft. He sorta lost me after that. A bit smarmy for my liking and something of a Triplechins' toady. He was very brave as a player, not sure he is so brave as a commentator/media person; he plays it very safe.

_________________________________________________________________ Hate to be a wet blanket, but he may not be the messiah, he may be just a naughty boy! I remember Barassi was touted as the messiah years ago; what a fiasco that was!

------------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks Rhino, hope to see you there. If you do turn up, make yourself known; I'm the keyboard player.

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__________________________________________________________________________\ I think Molly would be interested in the back flank.

I think I can honestly say, without fear of contradiction, that of all the footballers I have ever seen, Newton is one of them.

If you have to use the abysmal expression "pinchhitter", then Yze should pinchhit at Sandy. Wheels was tried as a midfielder years ago. The experiment was an abject failure. He is a terrific back pocket and should stay there. Green was a great forward and should play there again. He would be good for 2-3 goals a game. Dunn has great potential; could play anywhere, back forward and onball. Same with Bate, although I like him on the half forward line because he presents well. Would like to see Rivers play up forward occasionally. I really liked it when he occasionally wandered up forward during matches + kicked the odd goal.

I thought it was the Fidge Bros - Teddy + Johnny.

thanx

Is this match on TV? If so, what channel and what time does it start?

________________________________________________________ Were you at the Port game? Cam used to be my favourite player. I still like him, but he clearly shirked a contest in that match. I think it was the last qtr - ball kicked to forward pocket. He was opposed by 2 players. He was never going to mark it, but he didn't even make a contest. Effectively stood back and watched. In that qtr he kicked to Aaron Davey at FF who was outnumbered 3/4 to 1. That possibly wasn't his (Cam's) fault because he looked up and no-one was there other than Aaron. I did think however that Flash made a better attempt to make a contest than his more experienced teammate in the incident referred to above.

I watched the match from MCC members with my thirdborn (9 years old) and a few other supporters. The atmosphere was really friendly. Because there were so few people there, it was easy to strike up conversations - there was the couple behind me, the older guy along the row who kept bagging Cameron Bruce and the bloke in front of me who I suspect was Dr Turf. A win would have topped the day off.

______________________________________________________ Would you be offering champagne, soft music and candlelight dinner as the form of entertainment?