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These are the threads i prefer on Brocky, not this trading BS. No i don't think he's arrived just yet but he's getting there, he's now being mention as havin IMPACT on games. Certainly v Fremantle and Hawthorne (first half) he's shown he can be dangerous, and the games are getting closer together. I have never wavered in my support of him and i'm still convinced by the end of this year he'll stake his claim to be the next (full time) captain of the MFC. St. Kilda this week is a very good chance for him to lead from the front as he will be right into it from the start, and he can set a tone for the match.

Yeah, what the hell happened to that team's potency? Obviously injuries screwed a lot of things up last year, but a lot has happened in the last 12 months to trun that team in to putty.

Outs: Neitz Holland Ward T. Johnstone Clint Bizzell Nathan Brown Possibly Out: Chris Johnson Adem Yze Jamar Whelan Nathan Carroll In: Morton Warnock Garland Frawley Wonaemirri Rivers Valenti Buckley Feel free to add to the list if i missed someone. But that's an amazing change, and for those who think DB ISN'T going for a youth feel they should look at the ins. A good comparison

Will this week be fully ticketed or is it a walk up? I know that usually there's some seats in the cheersquad area for Gen admission, but this might be a case for calling up ticketmaster to confirm.

I don't think that's fair on the players, or DB for that matter. I'd say that the first quarter can be put down to Neitz and Kennett, emotion can only take you so far, it doesn't make you sustain it for the whole day, especially against the likes of Hawthorne.

At this stage i'd have to say McLean, but the performances have been so poor for most of the year so it's hard to tell some times. Miller may be there in the top 5, but i'd have to say it's be out of McLean, Davey, or Green.

We didn't request it, in fact Gardner came out after the draw and said how dissapointed he was at how many Sunday games we got. Not to mention the lack of night games, it's a joke that we've got just 1 Friday night game for the WHOLE year. When Gazza was talking about the Sunday games, Carro had the nerve to say that there wasn't any difference between Sunday games and the other timeslots. I was shocked at her remarks, it's common knowlege that not only is it a lower drawing day, but a lot less TV exposure. Bottom line is that next year they'd better make up for it by giving us some decent timeslots, ESPECIALLY if they are going to reduce/discontinue the CBF. The only way they can even out the competition is to take away the high exposure slots from the likes of Collingwood and Essendon, and give them to Us, the Doggies, and the Kangas.

I was at my mothers 60th brithday, would've given anything to go to it but family comes first always.

It was just after beat the press. Chuck in Rivers into the defense and we might have a future there afterall, and the good thing is that the gorilla forward is going out of style so most of the weights on our guys will be about right. Conolls on the BtP was great, you can see he is just so passionate about being part of the team that brings Melbourne out of the dark ages. "See this, it says i am with Melbourne", i love it!

Last night on footy classified Caro had the nerve to say that Sundays draw the same crowds as the other days, history has showed us that not only is Sunday traditionally the days that draws less of a crowd but less TV exposure which IMO is an even bigger issue. And it's one of the reasons why we're having to look outside the square to gain revenue. If nothing else, the fact that the club has shown it's willing to think latterally now gives us positive press. This venture could well be our saviour, it could well prove to be just a red herring to deflect our clubs issues but either way i like the thinking that's going on.

I would never vindicate us tanking, however given the fact that we really have to start from the beginning again and that the Gold Coast team is going to butcher the draft for any team that does poorly in 2009, we pretty much need to gain the draft pick this year to give us the gun players for the future. I think the best we can hope for is for us to win about 4 games this year but to show the kind of spirit we showed today. I haven't watched the whole match but our first half was fantastic pressure footy and the only way i could be prouder of the boys would've been if they got the win. And as you have said, Distance Demon the worst maybe behind us, we just need to keep showing that kind of digging in fighting spirit, and show that this club is not going to back down from a fight. PS. the look on Jonesy's face when he kicked that goal in the first quarter made me so excited, the passion and aggression in his face was awesome!

That would be extremely costly, would it not? I know there is a train in the vicinity, but how can we upgrade the transport system to be able to get the fans from there to the ground? Bus? Tram? Perhaps they could create a shuttle bus system for game days. I agree though, one of the big failings for Waverly Park was the fact that there was no way of getting up there without driving. To be successful at Casey we'd need a way for fans from everywhere to get there.

You don't get 6 weeks for a chance to show what you've got, 2-3 should be plenty and he has been given that before. I agree bringing him in and out isn't going to do anything, but by now if you perform at Sandy you should at least able to show SOME of that form in the big league. I want to give him a chance but every time he walks out on to the field he looks like a headless chook. He will need to establish himself in the chance he get from now on, or he's not going be apart of our future. The team this week looks vulnerable at best, the efficiency the crows had last week V our defense was scary, but the midfielders are going to have to work 5x as hard against the Hawks. Accountability will be the biggest key to not letting this become a blowout of monumental proportions, and whoever we drop back as the extra man will need to be ready to back into packs at just about every Hawk forward thrust. My opinion, give (P) Johnson a big time run in the ruck and have White as the extra man down back. The other option is Bruce or Green. I've got my hopes for Frawley, i don't think he was as bad as everyone was saying V Adelaide, the fact is they know how to move it quickly and get space in their forward line. When you're faced with those odds there isn't much you can do as a defender. In saying that though i think he will miss the cut this week. And i REALLY hope Yze can recapture some of his spark, when up and running he was unpredictable and highly skilled, it's sad to see what he's become now. My interchange: Buckley, Holland, Yze, Valenti

What the hell did Harris do at our club? 90% turnover? That's a joke, and it's no wonder we're in financial disarray. I can't believe that he actually BUDGETED for a 30,000 membership figure, given the history of our clubs supporters after bad year and the fact that we couldn't sustain many losses it would've been infinitely smarter to budget for 26,000-27,000. Aim for 30,000 but don't rely on it. P-Mac seems to be heading in the right direction, especially in terms of our gate numbers so far. It's early days, but i've liked his style in the past so hopefully he can perform a miracle. I hate to say it though, but i think we're gonna have to look at selling more games, try to go for a neutral ground.

Very true, however us members and supporters haven't been told how to help. Apart from buying a membership and going to as many games as possible, what else can i do?

Can someone explain to me how we are set for a loss of over 1$ Million when our is almost what it was last year, we have had LESS injuries, and crowd figures are roughly what they were last year, possibly even more. The Steve Harris sacking must've cost the club dearly, and the annoying this was that it was an avoidable situation. Anyone could see he shouldn't have got a contract extension, but for some reason the club sees fit to retain him and then drop him 3 or 4 months into his new contract. Yet again the club takes one step forward and three steps back. :angry: :angry: :angry: On Kennett, he can stick his opinion where the sun don't shine, the AFL has already said they are creating a separate entity up there and they are want an 18 team competition for the next TV rights deal.

I agree if he could get out there! Poor guys is so bloody injury prone, but if could string some games together there is no doubt he is an integral part of our team and has the guts to go back into packs.

Already a topic on it in the "Successor" thread. http://demonland.ugbox.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=10191

It's Adelaide, the umpires are colour blind to every team that crosses the border. Seen it so much now i'm almost used to it........almost.

Yze's out of the side, Robbo's too erratic, White's probably too old and isn't having as much of an influence (however i agree he should be considered in the group).

Thanks I might not get to say goodbye! If i ever see him at a function or anything i will make sure to thank him in person, he's earned every accolade he's been given.

Are they giving him his tribute this weekend? I haven't heard anything so i was hoping they would leave it to make it a part of the big celebrations during the Queens Birthday for our 150th year, a tell ya what if they DID do that it would just about sell out the ground. Please don't let it be this weekend though, because i've got my mother's 60th birthday in the afternoon and i can't go to the match!

Either retire it for a year, or give it to the first round draft pick of 2009. But i'm also with Finks! If we get Jonno Brown i think he might be deserving of it........just!

Too early to have Petterd in there, i like the rest though. And it would probably be a good idea to put some experience in there so i hope Green can forced his way back in. I'll throw up a smokey, and not necessarily an option i would take but based on this year he could be amongst it. Brad Miller As i said, not a choice i would make, however Bails obviously rates him and he hasn't looked completely incompetent this year. If he continues to present and show a bit of aggression he could at least be an option as a temporary captain while the likes of Brock, Jones and Bate grow up.

OK perhaps i worded that wrong, but the point is we need Brock in our side going forward. We've got to build on something and the only way to breed experienced players around the club is to keep them around long enough. If we trade them once they get tagged and can't shake it then we'll never end up with a list to take on the best, in two years time everyones going to say the same thing about Jones, but you have to stick fat ith players and allow them to grow. And sure in hindsight trading Trav at the end of 2002 would've been great, he came in the top 5 of the Brownlow for Christs sake so we would've got a top draft pick, but how could they justify it at the time!?