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I don’t like that the club gaining the player loses nothing other than salary cap space. If the AFL categorises the player as a first round compensation than the club gaining them should have to give up their lowest available pick. It’s not a direct trade as the club losing the player gets their compensation straight after their first draft choice location and it forces the team gaining the player to give up development of another youngster in their squad. Doesnt have to work exactly like that but Richmond shouldn’t be getting him for nothing. It was what annoyed me so much about the hawks getting chip from us.
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Sing the song with my brother in a pub in London!
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Picking through the bones of 12 years of Misery
Pates replied to Engorged Onion's topic in Melbourne Demons
Fans of Geelong, Sydney, and Hawthorn should have a read of that to understand why this means so much to us long suffering fans. Especially the ones that are 20 and under, they’re the worst because pretty much all they’ve known is success. -
Him serving it in the preseason was the biggest disgrace of all, it was what ended up changing the rule. They were dominant that year but that day they were thugs and bullies against youngsters. As soon as Neitz hit the post on the first shot on goal I knew it was going to be a dirty day.
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When Stynes returned to the club we were on our knees, he helped us get out of debt and for a time gave us stability. Sadly certain choices also lead us back into arguably an even bigger hole, there was a disconnect between the club and the footy department and ego’s ruining the club. With the greatest love and respect, Stynes and co created short term solutions to long term problems. He should absolutely be recognised for the help he delivered at the time, but our current team and management built themselves into what they are now.
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It is interesting to consider the training camp stuff and how early on it was us copping it for the players backing out of it at the last minute. Of course the narrative for the media was all dependent on what happened in our year, we have made the finals and finished the H&A season by beating two top 8 teams. So there hasn’t been any more mentioned about it for a while. For Adelaide, they’ve missed the finals after being grand finalists and minor premiers so naturally the media will dissect anything they can to do with them.
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Tie for Clarry and Maxy, though some of the stuff Clarry is doing now is putting him in elite start category. We’ve got something special with him.
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I could not fathom the arrogance of them requesting a home final in advance while being outside the 8. Be in the position FIRST and then request it. I also hate the arrogance of their fans, they’ve been up for so long they’ve forgotten what it means to suffer and what it should mean when you get to be a part of September action. They deserve a long stint down the bottom for their arrogance but it likely won’t happen for a while because they’re a “destination club”.
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He was the first trade for a long time to make an immediate and permanent impact on the team. He came to us as a bit of a party guy, but nuckled down and became a leader. One of my favourites, I’m gutted for him that he’s missed out on playing finals with us. Best of luck Bernie, I hope you know you’ll always have a home at the Dees.
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If Garlett puts in a strong performance this week at Casey, with high pressure and team acts then he could be a big chance to replace Kent. Biggest concern is Kent is stronger in his body while Garlett is more your traditional crummer (and they don’t seem to have the greatest records in finals). That said Garlett has a magic that when he’s on he can be a match winner, sadly only seen once for the seniors this year against Brisbane.
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Oh and I’ll add a quick little mention for Spargo. Definitely better this week, two important touches that created goals, one for Tracca, the other for Jonesy. Also seemed to harass with more intensity this week. He’s had a good first year, hopefully the week off will do him some good.
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Max Gawn wins AFL Coaches Association Champion Award
Pates replied to Gorgoroth's topic in Melbourne Demons
Lol damn autocorrect! -
I’ll admit that I wasn’t sure Vanders was best 22, I saw him as being a part of if the best 25 but I have been proven wrong. He has been very important since returning.
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Not a bad idea, and it would get rid of the controversy when it does happen of commentators asking, “did he go over the mark?” I noticed Spargo marked the spot when he had his shot for goal, it was just just another thing in his routine that looked rushed. I really hope someone is helping him with that, it wouldn’t surprise me if it assists him in getting better penetration because his body looks so tense as he goes to kick it. But definitely for the spray can for marking the mark, only thing is does the umpire call time off while he does it but it’s still a part of the set shot clock? Because the player kicking for goal could conceivably use the umpire as a shield to play on for a snap.
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Yeah fair call, better than average would be a fair assessment. I think there would be things that us armchair experts miss that are crucial to the team.
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Biggest thing that killed us both games was our inefficient forward entries, too many long bombs and then inaccurate kicking for goal, particularly when we were dominant. I also think back to QB with the big build up and big crowd, we were overwhelmed and didn’t switch on. Since then we’ve played in front of other hostile crowds and come out strong, we have to make sure we don’t get sucked in by Geelongs experienced players getting in our players heads. I feel like Viney is the wildcard here, without match fitness do we throw him straight into the guts? Maybe have him start outside the centre square to run in with purpose to smash the first Geelong player to grab the footy? Or perhaps start him in the half forward area to feel the game first before throwing him into the centre? Honestly I have dreams of Dangermouse gathering the ball and Jack tackling him hard into the ground (legally of course) and knocking him out like what OMac did to Darling.
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Jones hasn’t been great this year as a whole but his last two weeks have been very good. He’s lifted his intensity in the clinches and was instrumental to our last two wins particularly WC. Just my opinion from what I’ve seen though. On Lewis it is quite funny to think just a few weeks ago there were calls on here to get him to his 300 and then drop him never to return. Like Jones his year as a whole has been average with a few good performances but again like Jones the last two weeks he’s been solid as a rock and exactly the experience we need going into the finals.
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Max Gawn wins AFL Coaches Association Champion Award
Pates replied to Gorgoroth's topic in Melbourne Demons
When he had his first AA year I think a few of us Dees fans were cautious, we’d seen Jamar go AA and then not really come close to those abilities again. I was confident of him coming back after his injuries last year well but I honestly didn’t expect him to be as good as he’s been this year. He’s gone to another level and he could be looked back on in the future as a “great” Rick man of our game. Love ya Maxy!!! -
And just a quick pump up to all the Dees fans at the game today. GWS would’ve been lucky to have 1000 there so to get that crowd was fantastic, and hearing on the TV the crowd was LOUD! I can’t begin to describe how much I wanted to be there and how gutted I am at missing the first final.
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Their energy in the 3rd and 4th quarter was breathtaking, Gawn twice chased a man hard and while he didn’t catch him made damn sure it wasn’t an unpressured kicked. Today was a coming of age for us, they played like a team that belongs deep in September.
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Comments from the Rooty Hill End (GWS fan forum)
Pates replied to Cards13's topic in Melbourne Demons
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That could be the best news to come out of today (aside from a convincing win!). Shoulders can be funny at times, sometimes you get knocked in a spot and it feels incredibly painful but just needs a week or two to recuperate. Tyson doesn’t sound good though, Viney comes Etta in for him but it would’ve been hard to drop Dom on his recent form.
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He’s going to be hugely important for us in finals, his last 2 weeks have been on point.
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He’s still got a long way to go in his development but he’s playing with great confidence, he’s attacking ball with desperation and that set shot today shows he’s got good kicking in him. I think a lot of it is between the ears with Sam but the last two weeks have been brilliant.