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There was a (not unreasonable) suggestion here on DL that that comment from roos was directed at frawley. Perhaps it was actually about MC. Again I wonder if the request for a pp is related to this development.

maybe. But even if made up I'd love to hear some reassuring words from now.

Mitch Clark eyeing AFL comeback

how?

if he plays for another Vic club I would be livid. Let's see but as you say something might be up. I wonder if the pp request is somehow related. Eg look we need to be compensated for loss of player we treated well, invested heavily in, in fact our best player and one of only 2 a graders. Sort if aligns with what Evans said about extraordinary circumstances

Fair enough. But i would not be surprised if there was more to this story than has come out. I heard BT again give that spiel today and he made it clear there were a number of issues. The poster was - according to BT - the straw that broke the camels back, so to speak and cam after he had already raised concerns about the culture of homophobia at the club. Interestingly for those accusing him of grandstanding that was kept in house and HT didn't make any public statement (indeed he hasn't made any full stop, except i suppose meeting with an opposition coach!)

I heard this as well and it is exactly my point. No doubt BT has good oil at the maggies but who is to say that what he has reported actually happened, or at least happened the way BT described it. The way you have written it you imply what he has said is accurate. It is at the best hearsay. At worst it is Collingwood propaganda trying to spin it so they look great and HL looks a disruptive [censored]. Who do you think gave BT the version of events? Not HL or his manager i assume, I reiterate, i have yet to hear from HL and i see an amazing contradiction in many posts given how critical DL posters are usually of journos, their sources and their accuracy. Is it not possible there is an alternative version of events or should we simply uncritically swallow BT's version?

yep. I had no truck with frawley until the last few games when he decided to go through the motions. We needed a leader to show something against gws. He is close to our physically strongest player and he could have decided to impose himself. He chose not to. Stan akves and Greg wells gave everything to the end for the dees and I didn't begrudge them moving in for glory. Big difference

this is the funny thing for me. Who has said he has made a big issue over the poster? I haven't heard him say anything. I've just heard media reports. So they must be true hey? A bit inconsistent with the mistrust journos get on this site. Suddenly they only report the truth and all the facts and people are OK about making judgements on this supposed truth

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/melbourne-coach-paul-roos-sounds-out-disgruntled-magpie-heritier-lumumba-20140905-10cyc6.html

#54 would allow him to fly in under the radar - 'who is that 54, he looks like he can play a bit'

He wants a new number - new start new number. He can have whatever number he wants!

it would be ironic if Mitchell was in a similar boat to Kennedy at the hawks. Good but up against so many good mids that he gets squeezed iut

didn't he come 5th last year?

I like how Buckley calls him H

Bomber would have a good sense if he has what it takes and I assume he would let roos know if he is. Ticks a few boxes. Still young. Experience as an assistant, including a good stint under a premiership coach in bomber. Has he remained in the game since he retired playing?

Disagree WJ. Well about the bolded bit. Whilst EFC have decided to be uncooperative and litigious the players haven't been uncooperative thus far. They participated fully in interviews and were not a prty to the recent court case (i suspect Grace advised them not to to for this very reason ie to do so might threaten a deal with ASADA). ASADA will be keen to wrap this up and six month deals will be the best lever they have. If the players receive show cause notices it will be very hard to convince the players to knock it back and instead subject themselves to years more uncertainty. In that sceario the crack inthe wall that might have just appeared with Ryder might become a full breach.

EFC would have to be on drugs to take Blease

no it didnt

Spot on diesel. Well said. Probably a good point to draw a line under this and close thread?

I would love for the bombers to lose this weekend and receive a negative finding from Middleton on Monday. Gold.

You're a real glass half full kinda guy old dee (insert smiley emoticon)

Spot on Dr. And this thread is a perfect example of the attempts of some to impose a view. Look at the powerful group think here - from the get go the subtle tone from the majority of posts is along the lines of - 'don't post your PC rubbish here, don't impose your values and if you do you will be shouted down as a wowser and told to keep you thoughts to yourself'. As i posted earlier. Ironic

Dude. I know.

That's ironic. If you look at this tread there have only been a small number of posts criticizing the stupidity of the players or responding to the many apologists. The vast majority of posts (the rabble if you like) have been from people seemingly fearful of the all encompassing threat of the nasty PC monster. no sense of humour! don't people get satire! boys being boys! what's the world coming to! get over yourself you wowsers!rabble,rabble,rabble Feels much like an echo chamber to me