Demon17

1 hour ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

I would delist Maynard, Stretch, JFK, Keilty, the Wagners, T Smith (always injured), and possible even ANB and Garlett before I'd get rid of Lewis. So on that basis he gets another year. 

Agreed also, except I would remove the 'possible' in front of ANB

22 hours ago, Pennant St Dee said:

Listened to it in its full context, he was on the money and he was cautious in his approach very much talking about the now, he was glowing in his future expectations of Clarrie and Gus

Agree. He recently analysed petracca and why expectations are too high. Interesting insights most times. 

He thinks trac is caught between being a midfielder with poor engine and key position with wrong body shape.

26 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Jesus christ.. another week where we have to put up with more ANB rubbish.

Agree. I'm convinced he may well have compromising photos of someone. There's no other reason for this selection.

14 hours ago, The Lobster Effect said:

I agree Hannah Gadsby is a bit overrated.

Probably would've contributed more than Hannan last week.  I agree Hannan /ANB are in the frame

4 hours ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

How is he responsible for Watts’ broken leg? Can we also blame him for Scully’s miraculous recovery? 

Give it time ET.

Someone on this website will dream up a scenario

16 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

I think Preuss and Max will play really well together and suprise a lot of people. 

Jimmy and Strawbs worked very well...

Both need to practice Goal Kicking. 

2-3 a game can be the difference between a W and a L

Fully agree especially given their 4 year age difference. We will retain Max for longer with Preuss taking more work .

The 'stynes/O'dwyer' thing back in late 80's was a paradigm shift at that time.

1 hour ago, ProperDee said:

Read all of the comments.  As a MFC supporter for 54 years, I cannot truly enjoy a win from a team who has had the most dramatic fall from grace that I have ever seen.  I am angry and embarrassed that we are 16th on the ladder. I am sick of the OTT goal celebrations of the Petracca’s et al. FFS just go back to your position without all of the BS carry on and kick another goal. It’s your job. Just do it.   I was lucky enough to know Alan Jeans quite well. He would have burst a blood vessel seeing the way some of these “modern” footballers carry on.

I can only imagine what the likes of RDB and Norm Smith would say to some of our current players on the back of last season.  

Not so fast.

1998  we make the prelim after the 97 wooden spoon.  Then we finish bottom 3 in 99 with only 6 wins. With arguably a better list than we have available now.

This has all happened before.  IMO the 2018 list has always been overrated and they played out of their skins for the last 5 weeks of the season only.

Still building

I agree with all your other sentiments though PD

53 minutes ago, Nasher said:

Staggering response on here as always. We had one on the bench in the last quarter, with the casualty list including TMac who had absolutely slayed them before the injury. It still amazes me that people don’t adjust their expectations despite the glaring evidence in front of them. As soon as I learned TMac was out, I knew it would be game on. But nah, everyone go on expecting greatness from an already struggling team now dead on their feet.

I thought it was a really enjoyable gritty win. Glad there’s a few on here who agree.

Nice one. 

4 hours ago, Red and Blue realist said:

I'm happy with the win, even if most on here will be negative. 3 down on the bench for the whole last quarter and we fought out a win. Wasn't pretty, but too show that heart says something about the group

Was at the game.  Team was out on its feet. 

Kudos to getting over the line.

Oliver was nothing short of heroic 

2 hours ago, joeboy said:

Jones - consistently found targets

Viney - bullocking and courageous 

McDonald - outstanding until injured

Fritsch - great first half

Oliver - courageous and tireless 

Preuss - finally justified selection

Harmes - important but fumbly

Salem - continued impressive season

Neal-Bullen - just a game

Petracca - brilliant in bursts

Frost - heart in mouth

Hunt - took his chances

Brayshaw - disappointing season continued 

Weideman - failed to impose

Lewis - was rarely sighted

Hibberd - rarely inspired confidence 

May - safe and composed

Hannan - some rare glimpses

Dunkley - deer in headlights

Petty - quiet before injury 

Lockhart - was he playing?

Hore - will be missed

Jones. You're joking. 

Dunkley. Some good things under pressure 

May. Saved the game.

Petty. Shows potential 

Frost. Starting 22 in 2020

Neal bullen. B grade

Viney. Not a thinking footballer

Oliver. Leadership in spades

23 hours ago, picket fence said:

Yep, I think this is on the money and probably should be, earns a game in whatever position plays his 300th but no more than 1 more year.

True and valient servant for such a long period of time! Ive changed my view a little!

This is a difference between us and .say, the Hawks.

No sentimentality over there. Would clearly be respectfully retired by Hawks at end of this season. As Goody should.

Slower reflexes, fumbly.......

The end comes to all of us, but what's in the best interests of team development trumps other angles. IMO

More games needed into Hore,  Lockhart, Sparrow,  Dunkley, Baker, Wagners, Petty......as the priority.

4 hours ago, Watts the matter said:

Had a mixed game for mine. At stages looked great, loved the way he took a few bodies and that double handed spike to a teammate, but also thought he was dump kicking to often for a skilful player and spoiling his teammates, dropping easy marks to often in marking contests.

Not in the final 15 minutes though when i thought he provided a calmness down back with good disposal 

1 hour ago, Moonshadow said:

Salem on Cameron? More damaging by foot than Frost

It's got to be someone applying constant physical pressure and touch.

Salem would be a sacrifice too far. 

Setting wagner the task and sacrificing own game might work.

32 minutes ago, picket fence said:

Capt 2020 There.. I've said it!

Someone had to. His last 10 minutes today had leadetship and calm thinking stamped all over it.

4 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

He makes everyone down back stand taller. 

Natural leader.

Great post. 

The team has a good kick now down there and the keys to a finals standard defence with lever and future 10 year player hore. 

I see May as a walk up to leadership  group in 2020.

Fitting that he had the ball today at final siren time

On 6/18/2019 at 3:42 PM, Sir Why You Little said:

Viney should go before Brayshaw...

Sadly you may be right.  I don't think jack can solve his right side issues whereas as Brayshaw can improve his weaknesses, and his performance alone in the finals has to count for something (think 3rd 1/4 Vs hawks.)

12 hours ago, picket fence said:

Dazzle is right on the money. Jones retires at seasons end ( after a great career) and club moves to appoint new blood. 

Viney is NOT a captains toenail. Period!

For next year

GAWN CAPT

MAY ( Thats right MAY!) VC

OLIVER DVC

LEADERSHIP GROUP  LEVER, MELKS NEV 

Another sensible and smart left field post.

Could just be the solution.

12 hours ago, Billy said:

Max sole skipper 

Lever & Viney deputy’s 

good option and sets Lever up to take role when Max retires in the distant future. Lever was seen as potential skipper at Crows which was one reason they were upset he left.

4 minutes ago, At the break of Gawn said:

It has to be Max. At a minimum he’ll be a co-captain but I’d prefer if he was sole captain.

Big test coming up for the club and for jack Viney's selflessness (or not) to not seek the role in 2020 to focus on form

Max seems an obvious choice for his professionalism to preparation alone but might be a burden he doesn't need. 

Jake lever anyone? 

39 minutes ago, Nasher said:

Disappointing just because I deluded myself in to think this would be better, but really it was just more of the same: getting heaps of the ball but just not translating it in to goals.  

Heaps of positives from this game though. Lever at 80% added heaps. I thought May in his first full game was good. Our whole backline looked far more cohesive and kept us alive in the first half. Hannan got better as the game went on. Weideman slowly but surely hitting form and becoming a forward threat again. It might be that thing of deluding myself again but I truly think we’re not as far off as ladder position might suggest.

Thought Maxy deserved a paragraph of his own. He is simply immense. He’s playing as a genuine midfielder now without giving up any of his other strengths. If we were winning he’d be being lauded as the best player in the game on current form.

Was at the game. Great summary nasher.

But Viney's lack of a right foot is now a huge issue. All clubs know this.

55 minutes ago, Matsuo Basho said:

Petracca’s statistically had his worst six weeks since his first six games for the club four years ago. He’s averaging just 70 SuperCoach points and has kicked a paltry 10 goals from 11 games as a permanent forward line player. Those are horrible returns. 

It’s amazing how divorced from reality our supporters (and the media) can be when it comes to this player. He’s either a chronic underperformer or simply not that good. I think it’s probably somewhere in between. 

The similarities with Colin Sylvia’s career path are eerily similar.

Yes. Today will be another underwhelming output. Might win the odd one on one and maybe a cameo but thats about it. 

11 hours ago, picket fence said:

Why??

Good question. No point trac practising when his ball drop/technique is fundamentally flawed.

1 minute ago, Demon17 said:

And broke his Jaw

But I loved watching him play faults and all.  He set the club up as a destination by his recruitment to us. Exactly what the club needed at the time.

Really hope he stays .

2 hours ago, Ben E said:

I agree he played a part in changing that game, although he didn’t break his leg (that happened from a Hunt smother, I think). Lewis merely punched him as the Blues and Cripps were getting on top.

And broke his Jaw

On 5/18/2019 at 11:39 AM, Little Goffy said:

Four years ago we would've been quietly celebrating another good prospect getting their first game under their belt, and looking forward to the future.

I know the urgency of getting full-AFL-level performances out of our best-22 overrides that a little, but at a personal level for him, and as a note for the future of the club, I'd say we've got a live one here.

Thinking in ludicrously optimistic terms, but this current form slump and injury horror show has allowed a whole lot of young and fringe players to be tested or to get a little experience. It helps answer a lot of questions that might otherwise have only been faced once some of our current core players begin retiring.

Excellent last paragraph LG. I optimistically agree with david king who said this week melbourne 's run at the 2020 flag starts now with planning and getting healthy list in place. Your point on whay we have found in new talent can only improve 2020 prpspects.