Mad_Melbourne

Only useless if the skill level is poor and dont take advantage of the space with good use of the football. Hawthorn and Port are great exponents of this style of game play

Shredding for stereo, valid excuse?

They would, being further than 80 m away from the ball makes the player useless, teams would love having the outnumber at the context or 30m in front of thei opposition player taking uncontested marks or forcing a restart at least.

Cheers! Will get more done, tomorrow I have a bit more of a chill day so I shall pump some more out!! It's always fun to have a look at everyone's team

DRAFT REVIEW AND SEASON PREVIEW PART 1 Robbo 24 Categories: 1st in Marks 2nd in % 3rd in Hitouts 4th in Kicks How the draft panned out: Grabbed some clear midfield guns with his first couple of picks and from there filled out his forward line spots with a few midfield/forwards which should indicate that his team will be a high possession line up, whilst he is 4th in kicks currently that is with Ceglar as the utility, swapping this will likely increase it by 7-8 leading to him sitting top 3. Draft Steal: Based off the actual ranking numbers getting Crisp at 263 was a perfect acquisition, the dual position player will get midfield minutes at Collingwood especially with Greenwood being injured and will definitely increase his disposals and tackles for the year. Finish: Top 8 definitely beckons for Robbo and barring injuries he could well push into the top 4, scoring is a massive category in this league and Tom Lynch is a key figure in the forward line of Robbo. If he is able to develop as expected up on the Gold Coast he will be a major contributor to Robbos finals push. How will you find Robbo at the footy? He will be the bloke who is encouraging every Melbourne player to give the hands off to Salem but also talking about how our biggest mistake on and off the field for the last 50 years was getting rid of the superstar that is Stefan Martin. PC Demons: Categories: 2nd in Kicks 3rd in Handballs 4th in Marks How the draft panned out: With his first pick grabbed Lance Franklin who is a match winner in this competition often being able to kick a score big enough to beat the opposition of his own boot. Had first pick of the Ruckmen with Sam Jacobs and was able to fill good depth in each of the positions through the draft. Draft Steal: Toby Greene is a genuine ball magnet and if he can avoid being suspended there is no reason why he can’t continue to find the football, adding Griffin to the GWS midfield will also put less emphasis on the accumulator who will look to increase his actual ranking of 18 to push into the top 10 in the comp. Finish: The bottom end of the top 8 is the calling for PCs Demons, if his midfielders are able to hit the scoreboard and it will make his side a difficult one to beat, a lot rests on the development of Marley Williams and Kade Kolodjashnij, if they can find the footy out of the backline and increase their disposal counts he will push into finals. How will you find PC Demons at the footy? He will be the fella that is professing the innocence of both Toby Greene and Marley Williams after they had a hard night on the [censored] and beat up security out the front of a pub in Hawthorn. JCB: Categories: 1st in FD 2nd in Marks 4th in % How the draft panned out: Pretty much filled his midfield with his first 3 picks and has drafted very deep in the backline with one emergency and three on the bench all being back half players. If he wasn’t at the draft he has done very well for himself and has a team that can definitely be made competitive. Probably has the midfield with the most top end players with all being below 60 in actual ranking. Draft Steal: Mitch Duncan at pick 100 could well be a massive steal, he is a high end categories player and will take several marks, kick the ball more than he handballs and hit the scoreboard throughout the year. Finish: No reason to suggest that top 8 is out of the question, if his 5 midfield stars are able to find the football disposals will come with ease. Will need big improvement from the back half if he is to push deep into finals. How will you find JCB at the footy? JCB will be the bloke who is telling everyone that Essendon should not be punished for the drug saga, or at least Ryder, Monfries and Watson as they are the good blokes that came out of that club. Matts Cunning Stunts: Categories: 2nd in FD 5th in Tackles How the draft panned out: Midfielders and forwards were the theme of the day and Matts draft team went heavily after these areas. Majorly missing defenders only having two and both from Hawthorn will mean he will be using the waiver list early. Draft Steal: David Armitage is going to shoulder most of the midfield load at StKilda but he is a much better pick than 175 and is an absolute steal at that round in the draft. Finish: Needs to address the issue of not having a backline, but the waiver list and midfield options that he has could make trading pretty easy for him. At the moment though this list will struggle to play finals. How will you find Matt at the footy? When the flat track bully West Coast are laying the beating on a team at the Pattersons he will be one of the happiest people there, even if it is against Melbourne.

Well drafted by all, will be interesting to see everyone's teams. To get the ball rolling this is how mine panned out: Def: Malceski M. Johnson S. Hurn Rampe Mid/back Bugg Mids Gibbs I. Smith Gaff Hartlett Hill Newton Ellis yoleman Mid/fwds D. Martin Bell Jetta Fwds Roughhead Hawkins Karnezis Rucks Giles Leuenberger

Throughout the early years at Casey he still played predominately as a forward. The rare games that Gawn and Spencer didn't play he played ruck alone. I'm not forgetting anything I'm more just saying that his afl form has been pretty poor and not as you decided to put it (not too bad). On the flip side, athletically he is probably our most likely to succeed of the key position players he just cannot translate his repeat sprint ability into a way find enough space to continually mark the ball. That said disposal probably didn't work in his favour but as clearly stated he needs a hell of a lot more than a goal a game and 4 hit outs to make it at AFL level.

Rarely did he play second ruck, he usually played key forward hence his average of 4.4 hit puts a game, none the less I still think this is his best possibility of playing AFL is fwd/ruck but good to see them try something

22 out of 19 is not something to hang his hat on. You keep saying this stat. Just over a goal a game for a key forward is pretty much a fail. Thanks for the report mind you

Lynden Dunn being elevated to vice captain is a fair indication he runs things down back

Jayden Hunt grew 11cm from year 11 - year 12 and was one of the major reasons Paul Roos/recruiting team looked at him

You dont turn chicken poop into chicken salad, but by removing the chicken poop we are starting to have enough meat to make a salad. Roos perforamnce last year was much more than ordinary and the people expressing concerns are plain and simply wrong. Concerns that we cant kick enough goals is understandable, but how do we address this issue? Firstly by limiting the score that the opposition kick, which he successfully addressed. Secondly by winning the midfield battle, he has significantly increased the depth of our midfield and whilst it is still not in the top end of midfields by any means, so how can we expect to score massive scores when the ball hardly gets down there? Thirdly improvement of the patterns of movement and cattle in our forward line, losing Mitch Clark was a significant blow as Clark, Dawes and Hogan is the makings of an Agrade forward line, but he has addressed the issue of having no spark and speed through recruiting of Gartlett and JKH. I honestly fail to see what more he could do?

Cross in the leadership group, calling for the football where he ran into the spot and sat there instead of continuing his lead is worse than a player in his third season looking to a leader and giving it to him. That said the kick was loopy and thus it was the execution that was a bigger issue, if viney had stabbed the pass through the issue would not be spoken about, or had cross continued to lead back to the square allowing for us to bring it out the other side it would not have been spoke about either.

I disagree with this, when we looked best during the game was when we were able to maintain posession through quick use of the handball and switching it out the other side. People call for a more attacking game plan and it has been evident in the way we play that we have been far more aggressive which is good, but in order to build a successful team the most important factor is limiting scores against. My biggest annoyance is when I sit with the idiots who call "kick it long" modern football is designed so that teams are given the long kick option, if we are unable to take a contested mark or force it over the boundary we get crucified on the turnover and it is why the good teams do not rely on kicking it long to win flags. Our improvement from 3 years ago is 10 fold and people who base losing a practice match on whether our season will be a success or failure are ridiculous.

Upon reflection I have decided the thing that annoyed me most about this game was the amount of times that we were in congestion and pushed towards the back of the contest only to have no sweeper or back flanks pushing up. This is and was a staple of the Roos gameplan from last year and we continued to go towards the back of the contest yet there was no one there, which meant players would have to give it over their shoulder or back into trouble (Cross consistently)

The Good: -Defensively we were good, keeping a team to below 80 points should create opportunities to win 100% of the time -The amount of play we had, it was promising to see our team have more than the balance of play and really should have won by 20-30 points -Christian Salems defensive efforts (apart from one which i can recall where he was far to far in front of his opponent) -Ben Newton, more often than not if he was in the passage of play moving forward we got a scoring opportunity The Bad: -Simple disposal errors, Frost, Tyson, Hogan especially.\ -losing a game that on the balance of play we should have won -not capatalising on the domination in the first quarter -Daniel Cross was far too slow, was meant to be playing on Zaha most of the time -Our sweeper at the contest was continually getting sucked into the play, often we went to handball out the back and there was no one there, this is a major error and one that will be addressed by Roos for sure. (EDIT: last two the bad)

I would be almost certain that different players are instructed to have different initial responses, whilst still looking to "play football". Grimes will definitely be instructed to look for the lateral options due to his lack of break away speed (Tom McDonald) or his precision kicking (Watts and Vince). Grimes will look up the field to see if there is an overlap and loose man but will not be looking to pin point leads and I feel like this is something the team will understand, continuing the lead to create the space for the next option. I do not even slightly get frustrated by mainting the football and moving it across to a player who is able to move the ball better as they are able to take advantage of the hard running that is necessary to break these lines. I get much more frustrated when we did try to move the football forward too quickly when nothing was on resulting in the inevitable turnover and opposition scoring. (The last quarter this seemed to happen for us, whilst we were beaten out of the midifield also, we needed to maintain possession of the ball and avoid turning it over which we struggled to do, thus the score ending up so close.)

I thought this too, but when I saw a large chunk of the hawthorn players out and about including a few ex players I was shocked by how skinny they appearedEdit: maturity probably plays a part through the middle I guess.. But on tv everyone looks bigger I think

This is the movement of the football anatomy nowadays. Pushing towards long distance built athletes with lean muscle. Hawthorn is the team that embody this.

That was the most interesting thing that you posted, whilst i think they will improve due to the addition of Beams and Christiansen, i cant see them scoring enough goals to win enough games to put them in the 8. Tab has them at $4.50 to make the 8 but i have at least 10 clubs ahead of them in my opinion, so i wonder how you have them firmly in the 8 and who do you have dropping out?

Good to hear of his contributions and whilst it was directed at his response it was targeted at the issue as a whole, and a majority of the people complaining would not have offered up significant time or resources to the football club Problems with anonymity in a forum I dont know the fella from a bar of soap.

I don't use Twitter either, but I can still read it as it appears on the Melbourne football club website and app.

All I'm suggesting is that there is clear reasoning for the major gripes. If the membership issue is a major loss, I suggest you volunteer your time for the club in order to better position the club. The easiest method of communication is via Twitter I don't see how anyone can see that, they probably didn't have very much staff in the office due to a public holiday. Yes it's not ideal to change the time on the day of the event, but I think the outcry it has caused is laughable. I still maintain that the large majority dont actually care and this majority stayed and were able to enjoy training

Twitter comes up on both the app and the Melbourne website, which is why it is clearly the quickest easiest and most effective method of announcement. I can't see eye to eye with someone who says because Melbourne ran late they won't buy memberships for their kids or themselves, but the fact that there was not a properly run membership tent is not surprising due to the email being sent to existing members and the fact that most do it as a volunteer service to the club. Merchandise is always available at the demon shop, which everyone knows Mo64 pointed towards us not getting the small things right and therefore having "no hope"

The ground that we have made up in terms of an administration point of view as well as a list development point of view is enough of an indication to show the football club are well and truely heading on the right track. A change of time to training is not an indication that the club has no hope. I also care about the club and understand that these things can happen and still maintain that it is not as big of an issue as being indicated by people posting. I can understand that it is an inconvenience for people with small children with short attention spans but how entertained would they have been by training anyway if they wanted to leave after having waited for an hour