old dee

Single malt and two ice cubes works best Bbo

MN have you considered that DB may in fact as you suggest tell the truth and say x and y person tried to get me to throw the game but I resisted and "did not direct any members of his team to lose games" Case looks a little steady under those conditions don't you think?

I know it is a barren desert at present WJ But I cannot believe you have started this thread or that I am reading it or that I am commenting We must all have seriously shallow lives!

wyl I thought you understood the etiquette!

Hey guys this is supposed to be a refuge from this crap subject. Can we discuss this subject somewhere else please?

Finding one might be a bit hard.

I have now officially gone into over load on this subject Redleg. It is so reminiscent of the reason this thread was started. Can we make this thread a "T" free zone. I need a refuge.

Would love one PJ_12345 Well priced as well. Not sure I would ever buy a car that has a waiting list stretching months into the future. You might die waiting and someone else would get to drive it. I am much more"I want it now person"

A number died for their bravery wyl.

Watch?

Me too RR We needs wins for a mutitude of reasons

Very good comment H_T I think you have covered our situation well. There is a very long way to go

Arr those were the days!

Richmond and Dees supporters must be the most patient in the AFL. Year after year of crap and we keep coming back for more PSD Certainly not signs of sanity

Welcome aboard KD A few less injuries across the board would be a hell of an improvement at the MFC Sorry to disagree but I do not share your enthusiasm for Tapscott I am hoping this year he will show he is more than an average player

Big word considering it only has two letters

So as I suspected we have never done 6 miserable years to finals in one season! look I am not wishing us to be poor, I just see us starting from such a low base and I don't believe in miracles. After six very poor years and the way our listed ended 2012 it is a long way back. We were uncompetitive for the majority of 2012 IMO 3 - 4 spots up the ladder per year is what we are facing. We have made a number of changes and with the exception of Dawes the players coming in are: - Kids who will take a couple of years - guys that are viewed by the Football world as almost past it - players who did not make it the first time around and have looked good at lower levels and are on their second chance. With luck we will have picked up experience and a couple of diamonds out of the rough. Nothing that in my opinion is going to propel us up the ladder at a fast rate. Slow and steady in 2013 with more list changes at the end of 2013 that hopefully improve our list that was reduced to 8 - 10 AFL standard players over a five year period. I am prepared for it taking 3 years to get to 7 -8 position. IMO any thing else is wishful thinking.

That may be all true but where did the Dees finish in 1985, 6, and 7?

I should have joined them

Correct me if I am wrong but we had not been in the bottom 20% for 6 years? Or had we ?

Me too PSD Unfortunately I don't have 40 left mate but that is my wish If I leave this planet and the MFC have achieved that end result I will be very happy. I know this may be hard to believe but a GF win is now not my first priority. Your comment above is.

There are not too many of those around any more!

I also think he has more to do than worry about leadership issues. Just play well every week JW and I will be wrapped

Any thing is possible BH however I find it difficult to believe that we will charge up the ladder in 2013. It may well be scepticism born out of the experience of the last 48 years. Just looking at your list I see no example of the MFC doing a monster turn around, unless we are talking about drops down the ladder. There is always a first time but MFC teams do not perform the miracles you are hoping for, well not in my memory. So I will stick with a hopeful 8 and you can tell me I was wrong in August 2013

Jnr it pays to remember we we are coming from. In case the changes of the off season has affected your memory. We had 1 genuine win last season and were uncompetitive in 14 games, most games were over at quarter time. Now I know there have been a lot of changes at the MFC but we are still going to be playing the same teams as in 2012 And IMO none of those are going to roll over and play dead. GCS and GWS will improve as well I think 8 will be a good result.