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You are right. I am not his biggest fan but he deserves a go next week. I can think of 5 players that should make way for him. What about Bell he has played well for Casey, surely could not make us any worse!

No doubt we have all made bad investments at one time or another. The trick is knowing when to cut your losses before you drown in the egg on your face. Now having said that I would make him a reasonable offer for next year but if his manager thinks there is more on offer at GC so be it. How much do you think he is worth? 100 big ones seems enough for me at present unless he turns in some game winning performances at Casey. That might increase his worth.

It should not matter, he should be at Casey. I am no fan but surely he needs to get out of the spot light. At present he is not playing well and a run at Casey will hopfully give him some confidence. Take the poor kid out of the spot light before he gets run over by the "Stkilda machine" They will kill him next week if he plays.

Does it matter what number pick he was! If a player is not up to it does matter if he is 2 or 52.

They weren't in red and blue. They were in that god terrible white thing, seems very time we put that on we play like the Manangatang seconds ( apologies to Manangatang we were not that good). The game today was as bad as anything we have dished up over the last three years. At the end of the game today the over powering feeling I had was we have not improved at all this year to be beaten that badly by a team below is betond belief. Am I wrong?

Why? can't you defend him?

You have my vote! why is the guy untouchable? In his time with Melbourne he has shown me very little except the souls of his feet. Gold Coast can over pay him if they like.

You have got to be kidding why is Watts the only player that cannot be dropped? Why don't you say "Don't drop Jetta he won't learn anything at Casey" The greatest load of rubbish I have heard. He does not deserve his spot and should be dropped to Casey next week. He is playing terrible and should not be in the senior team. He has a lot of mates I might add. There should be 5 changes next week, don't ask me which 5 because there at least 10 candidates.

So in your opinion what is main claim to fame?

God I hope he is right! I am running out of years and 49 years will be a long time between drinks.

Not sure what why people have the hots for Cheney. I have seen him a number of times at Casy and a few times he has played in the seniors. He is a goer and always gives 100% but he is just a little short in the speed area, Unfortunately he is a good VFL player who is a battler at Senior level. IMO he will never be more than stop gap guy when the injury list lenghtens.

I wont cope with a loss. To loose means we have not come very far at all, Adelaide are poor, we have to win this if it is played on the moon. if we loose and then play St Kilda we will be 4.5 wins from 14 games does not look like much improvment to me.

We have taken a few steps forward but still have a long way to go. Look who we have beaten! No one of consequence, not one of our victims is a danger to the finals this year. If we have improved on last year knocking over Adelaide is a must. they are below us and have IMO a poor side that is not playing well. The only option is a win, if we cannot beat Adelaide then the number of wins we get in the next 10 weeks looks a low number.

But then if selected against Adelaide they get no rest! Have no idea what the rules are in this area does any one know?

I agree I think his is fairly accurate. Our success rate is only 38% add a bit for the game we lost because of bloddy pink umpires and 5/10 looks good to me. I am however fearful for the next ten games, we have to win on the weekend. This is a team below us with a poor side we must win this one wether it is in Adelaide or not. In front at quarter time is in my opinion the key, only the very best sides can give starts and still win and we are far from one of the best sides at present. In this second half of the season only wins count. No more honourable losses!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Not surprised, back on Tuesday I said Junior and Sylvia were no certs to get back. I mentioned in the lead up to the Collingwood game that Sylvia would not play. He has had a very seriousd injury, I sure most do not appreciate how serious it was. Why wife and a friend both work in the medical industry and both said to me he will be out for 3-4 weeks when it first happened their words have been proven correct.

What makes everyone think there will be changes! Sylvia was not in great form before he had the toe problem, does he deserve to go straight back in? I agree with a few posters Junior may well be rested another week, he is not a spring chicken any longer. If one of Sylvia or junior is in I think the drop out will be Jetta, thought he was average. If two back then outs are Jetta and either one of Scully or Trengove, I feel their form has dropped off since Perth. A run with Casey will do them no harm. Whoever it is will be stiff IMO!

"and Melbourne seems to have just about all the right ingredients on and off field for that elusive premiership." I agree with almost all you have said however I strugle with the above from No.5 Our Forward line is not within a bulls roar of producing a premeirship. It will not consistently kick large scores in 2011 or 2012 unless we find somewhere A KPF like Franklin.

Which is who? I see no one at Melbourne that could kick 10 goals in a game now or in the next few years.

Like your confidence! However Watts should be compared to Franklin. Does anyone have the information on how he was travelling at the same age or number of games? Franklin is a game breaking CPF that is what we need from Watts.

I find myself agreeing with you again Titan. "NO" Our forward line is not up to kicking decent scores on a consistent basis. It will have its days out but not enough to make the eight.

I agree Titan and he is why Hawthorn won a flag a couple of seasons ago! Unless you have someone in your team like him you will struggle to get past 7 - 8th place. In most Hawthorn games they know he is going to come up with a few big plays every week.He can turn a game on his own. Unfortunately there is no one remotely close to Franklin at the Demons now or anyone young who gives me any confidence they will be in the future. I know the Franklins of the world do not grow on trees but without one I fear we are destined to be a 5- 6 th team at best. Which is of course a lot better thatn last.

I went to the game and have to say it was a poor experience, The Casey had a lot of the better Melbourne players out today but it was a poor effort. I went especially to watch Spencer, Contary to your thoughts I thought he broke even in the first half but was struggling by the end of the third quarter. Having said that he had a lot of mates, I could not believe the number of times Casey players went to ground the comparison to Willy was amazing! On todays effort I could not see one MFC player who earnt his spot in the Casy team let alone a spot at Melbourne. Unless there are injuries we do not know about no one will get in after their displays today. I would agree with your thoughts above "Sylvinator". Wona looks over weight to me and IMO he has played 3 -4 good games at Melbourne the next two months I think might be make or break for him. He has played little in last two seasons and a lot of players with similar size / ability have arrived at Melbourne and IMO have past him by. It was Fitzy first game He deserves a lot more time before we will know his true ability and I doubt that JC would have looked good in that side today. LJ showed up in a few passages but he spent most of the first half in the forward so did not see a lot of the ball, the skills were still there so do not worry about him. He needs 2 - 3 weeks to get match fit. Strauss I will cut some slack, however IMO, Bell, PJ,Wona and Maric are for the hi jump. Cheney will only ever be a battler at AFL level. Spencer! the jury is still out.

Very good summery of the match Jack, thread seems to have changed so here goes. We have 4.5 wins because we have a good back line, a developing mid field and a ruckman who maybe the second best in the competition at present. However our forward line has no key position forwards so we try and make do with half forwards, smaller crummers and mid fielders who drift forward. Since Neitz left we have had no KPF. When he was playing he gave us a strong good marking forward. he got the ball a lot and kicked goals, when he was beaten and the ball came to ground there were other players to get the ball and score. So players like Green and Bate look very good. Neitz also took the best defender leaving lower ability backs on the likes of Bate etc. Look at the better teams they all have large tough KPF's Seen any one in the Melbournes team that looks like Mooney,Hall or Franklin? IMO that is the reason we do so well against Collingwood they do not have a good KPF either. IMO we will at best be only a mid field team until we solve this problem. I might be very wrong but I do not see anyone on our list that fits the bill. We all hope it is Watts but I do not see any mongrel in him. He is just a kid I know, lets hope that the toughness arrives as he gets older and stronger. He just looks too nice!!