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Riley. Disposal disposal disposal.

FFS. Young guy, light build, finding his way in footy. It takes confidence and experience to know when to go and when not to ... not to mention, none of us know what he's been instructed to do. Play as an outside receiver for example? But yeah, so much easier just to pot a player from the safety of a keyboard.

Not until he improves his disposal efficiency.

Yep, let's run them into the ground before season 2015 even starts.

Add Jamar to that list, missed most of the pre-season with whatever-he-had. Paying for it now it seems. Going to be interesting to see how many supposedly fit players are sent off for ops. Was a longish list last year.

Also from the Paul Roos era at the Swans. And a premiership.

Because last time he played in the firsts, he had 4 disposals for the entire game.

No, arrived at Melb with broken leg.

... which for some of them is also the result of no/reduced pre-season, as noted by PR. Kent and Salem in that basket, throw in Dawes and Garland, can't remember who else.

You don't use Tinder?

Judging by reports, he's actually been pretty solid at Casey for a while now.

FFS. You got any daughters?

46% iffy last week. Based on that, the majority of times he gets the ball, it goes to the opposition.

Another with a compromised pre-season. That he even made it back to senior's level this year is an achievement.

Beat me to it ...

Yep, always good to keep 'em guessing. No flies on Roos and co.

WEST COAST B: Jeremy McGovern, Eric Mackenzie, Jamie Bennell HB: Shannon Hurn, Mitchell Brown, Will Schofield C: Patrick McGinnity, Matt Priddis, Andrew Gaff HF: Jamie Cripps, Josh Kennedy, Chris Masten F: Nic Naitanui, Jack Darling, Josh Hill FOLL: Dean Cox, Mark Hutchings, Luke Shuey I/C: Sam Butler, Mark LeCras, Scott Lycett, Dominic Sheed EMG: Jacob Brennan, Adam Carter, Brant Colledge IN: Mark Le Cras OUT: Simon Tunbridge (omitted) MELBOURNE B: Lynden Dunn, James Frawley, Colin Garland HB: Neville Jetta, Tom McDonald, Jeremy Howe C: Matt Jones, Jack Viney, Daniel Cross HF: Bernie Vince, Cameron Pedersen, Jack Watts F: Max Gawn, Chris Dawes, Jack Fitzpatrick FOLL: Mark Jamar Nathan Jones Dom Tyson I/C: Rohan Bail, Dean Kent, Viv Michie, Christian Salem EMG: Dom Barry, Jordie McKenzie, Aidan Riley IN: Rohan Bail, Jack Fitzpatrick, Cameron Pedersen OUT: Dom Barry (omitted), Jack Grimes (hamstring), Aidan Riley (omitted)

Hogan not amongst them I imagine ... cough cough ...

... because there was a doping violation.

Not when it's the opposition.

No they shouldn't. There's no evidence that running your body into the ground during what is already a very long off-season has any long-term benefit.

Thread is well-titled.

Re Jetta: Most of the day he seemed to be on Rhys Palmer (10), who managed 17 possessions.

Sorry WJ, but if you sat through yesterday and think that it was Roos who let in the "negative thinking" ... Above the neck, the players are shot to pieces - and they were well before Roos arrived. I don't have an issue with what he said, partly because it's true, partly because I don't know what was actually said to the players or how it was addressed, and partly because I read it as expressing concern, not criticism. Performances like yesterday don't come about from a couple of interviews, a few harsh words, or any single event. They come from years and years of being at a "loser" club. For the older players, it's all they know, and for the younger players, it's all they've seen. There is hope, but it's going to take longer than a season. Though I think yesterday has shown everyone at the club just how far behind we really are. Sure, we can turn over players, but we've been turning over players for 7-8 years, with the same result.

Not forgotten, just not executed with enough (or any) intent - and at this level, once that happens, you come undone.