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Given that the (senior) Collingwood players have plenty of praise for HL, and that along with doing very well in the Copeland year after year, Harry also managed to pick up a "Best Clubman" award, I'll just put your concerns in the "no basis in fact" basket.

The claim that Longmire and Lyon have been "out-coached" sits at odds with their records. Of the last 6 grand finals, only one hasn't included a "Roos protégé". Also an odd claim given that Longmire has been recently voted "coach of the year" by his peers - for the second time in 3 years.

E.W. Copeland Trophy Top Ten 1. Scott Pendlebury 165 2. Steele Sidebottom 114 3. Dayne Beams 112 4. Heritier Lumumba 89

Nice work Wise. Pearls before swine.

You've got to be kidding. You were wide of the mark in April, and are even wider now. It's got nothing to do with what he regrets, or even what he feels, and your comment re mental health professionals shows how little grasp of the reality of Mitch's situation you actually have.

You know as well as everyone why he won't remain senior coach. He has a wife/family, football is an 80 hour a week job, and sooner or later it's time for the former rather than the latter. He's been clear that they'll move to Hawaii, that his wife also has a life/business/future and that things are already in place in that regard, and even adding one year on to the original two was stretching things.

Roos isn't giving 100%? Great arrangement, when you look at the debacle of most of the coaching situations over the last few years in terms of getting coaches in - Us, Saints, Crows, Suns, Port (pre-Hinkley) - and compare that with the situation at the Swans, i know which I'd rather.

Meant to say, for those who never got to see him live, the closest I can think of in comparison as a Dees supporter and spectator was Liam Jurrah - even the opposition supporters would applaud the magic, and always with much shaking of heads. "How did he do that".

Some fitting tributes and memories here - I was lucky enough to see him play through the 80's. With Robbie on the field, always worth going to the footy, whatever else happened. Amongst it all, played some incredible games for the Big V as well, they must have been almost like finals for Robbie. This isn't even a Flower highlights reel, but look at how often his name is called:

... with appropriate compensation, which would be first round. Not as if they'll lose him for nothing.

Fixed: The firsts had a player called Clark Got into the photography lark. From daffodils to nudes (though nothing too crude) Ended up at Kardinia Park.

The club has given us a reason (depression, new environment blah blah blah). That's it. Move on. We're not owed anything more, and don't have a right to anything more. And for those of you suggesting the players are somehow "soft" for not participating in the witch hunt ... Buddy Franklin attended Guerra's wedding not long after leaving the Hawks, and will be at Jordan Lewis's upcoming wedding, and you would similarly expect Melbourne players who are mates with Mitch to continue to keep in contact with him and wish him well - off the field at least.

Doesn't give you the right to know what's going on in people's private lives.

Big difference between "voicing your opinion" and resorting to offensive abuse. Dunn wasn't commenting on what was expressed - which he even went so far as to support - but the way it was expressed.

I think those of us who like to spread ourselves around tend to have different personas over on BF.

Ben is HH?

Compared to what? His 2014 Disposal Efficiency was just over 78%. Not too shabby, and would put him in our top handful. FWIW, Nathan Jones' average was 73.4%, Jack watts 80%, Bernie Vince 64.6% ... Speaking of stats, for this season from the Collingwood site (washed my hands afterwards): "He was a consistent performer ... winning 20 or more disposals in eight games, ranking fifth at the club for total disposals (420), first for rebound 50s (63), fifth for inside 50s (62) and second for bounces (25). Lumumba has been remarkably consistent when it comes to winning the footy in recent years. He won 420 disposals in 2014. In 2013, he won 424, while in 2011 he won 420. In fact, he has won between 402 and 424 disposals in five of his past six seasons." You'd have to wonder how many others on our back line would get a game at Collingwood, yet alone have stats like that. Speaking of stats, hidden away amongst his achievements, in 2009 he won Collingwood's Best Clubman award. Welcome to the Dees HL. Just don't believe what you read in the papers.

I suspect conversations have already taken place with St Kilda in regards to how they envisage using their second round pick. (This on the premise that I can't imagine anyone bidding a first round on Billy.)

About the only piece of information we can be sure of in the above is that the club wants him out - and if that's the case, given the kind of player he is/was, we'd have to presume that whatever's behind it is fairly serious.

Don't think we'll get Dangerfield, don't think we particularly even want Dangerfield (but wouldn't say no). But putting picks 2 and 3 out there sends a pretty clear message to all clubs: we're ready to deal.

One of Geogiou or Terlich on the way out?

After we put so much into helping through his "difficulties"?

And their low draft picks. (e.g. Langford)

Swans - but why do I feel that perhaps it's not to be?

Could have been phrased differently perhaps.