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Lumumba was held up by the Beames to Lions trade.

Just not very bright.

Neeld wasn't in this role at the Dees.

You sure about that?

Egg on face. As above, add Georgiou, which makes 9. Not sure how I got to 11. That's 7 gone from the main list, plus 2 rookies (Georgiou, Clisby), with which the outs, the ins, the Jetta upgrade leaves us 3 picks in the main draft, plus 2 rookie picks. Talk around that we'll get/take Ben Newton (Port), which would leave us only 2 live picks in the ND. If that was the case, not sure why we were fussed getting 40 and 53 in the trade for Frost. Maybe there's something brewing with Evans, contract or not. DEPARTURES Retired: Shannon Byrnes Unrestricted free agent: Mitch Clark (Geelong Cats), James Frawley (Hawthorn) Delisted: Sam Blease, Mitch Clisby, Alex Georgiou (rookie), Daniel Nicholson, James Strauss, Luke Tapscott

By my calculations, we've moved on/lost 11 players this year. There's only so much you can do in a single season.

Now there's a blast from the past, excellent. I'm somewhat more partial to Shady Grove, with the irreplaceable, idiosyncratic Nicky Hopkins on piano - as a young wannabe keyboard player at the time, was stunned when I first heard that. The boys were on track on that one (cough cough).

Anyone able to tie any of this back into the original thread ...??

What I meant. As a sixties' band, Cream were around too early to be considered for events that happened in the 70's.

Cream: Too early. We're talking (early) 70's. (Jack Bruce, RIP).

You would think so.

Well, perhaps put it this way. No (entire) cycling team has been banned or suspended by/through WADA or their associated bodies, nor have WADA appealed any non-suspension of cycling teams following multiple infringements. In reality - and I stand to be corrected - I don't know that WADA have ever been involved in the suspension of any team in any sport. There were more than 2 players suspended at Cronulla, but there's no ban.

Only when it's humorous.

Perhaps. I also think there's more to "he was told to be a hard arse" than is being acknowledged. I remember an interview with Jimmy where he was saying he wanted Neeld to "toughen them up", and there were similar remarks from Lyon. There may not have been specific instructions, but I think the message was pretty clear - and not just from within the club. Everyone thought that we were soft. In response, and for whatever reason - misjudgement, inexperience, incompetence - Neeld got it wrong. But on the evidence of his previous track record, he also knows how to get it right - albeit in a different role/context.

None. He wasn't responsible for player development at Melbourne. That would be the trio of Development coaches, Greaves, Satterly and Nichol, while Neil Craig who was Head of Coaching, should have been overseeing progress and addressed any shortcomings.

No. The discussion is about Neeld joining Essendon as one of their assistant coaches (development), not about Neeld's capacity as head coach. Which none of your points address - he will have no say on list managent at Essendon, for example.

christian petracca @cpetracca7 · 1h1 hour ago When will people realise, Mark Neeld is a great person, one of the best mentors/teachers of footy that I know of. everyone makes mistakes!! christian petracca @cpetracca7 · 1h1 hour ago couldn't be happier for him

Just to be clear, the UCI (cycling's governing body) don't and haven't banned any cycling teams. On a few occasions where there have been multiple doping cases in the same team, either race organisers refuse to allow the offending team to participate (by simply not inviting them), or the teams actually "ban" themselves under an agreement the've put in place. This is what happened at the recent Tour of Beijing, where Astana withdrew after two of their riders returned positives in lead-up races. I know cycling gets a bad rap, most of well-earned and self-inflicted, but what has happened at Essendon in terms of refusing to play by the rules, going to court etc. etc., has NEVER occurred in cycling.

Sums up how I feel. No harm in trying and failing. Good luck to him.

Yes. They're doctors and physios, not fortune tellers.

Thanks for pointing that out.

Bit of a contradiction there, could be tricky to resolve. Who to believe? On the one hand we have "your mate", on the other, we have professional footballers who worked with him for many years. Hmm.

Latest update: Essendon supplements saga: McDevitt says Essendon players 'have a case to answer' Sounding pretty ominous. They know what they're doing.

Head coach. Development coach. See ... not the same. Of course, I realise that that's two ideas, which seems to be one more than you can get your head around at any one time, but perhaps if you repeat it enough times, comprehension will come. If not, refer to posts above, and/or perhaps run through a list of players that he was in charge of at Geelong as development coach, and look at what's become of them. Might as well work through the list alphabetically, so first name out of the hat ... Ablett. I don't know, you tell me, put that down as a success or not?

France. Yep, pretty rugged. Indoor trainer, watching replays of Dees matches. And just when I can't take it any more, NAB Cup starts up, which usually gets me through the last month or so.