Diablo Deemon

If his kicking for goal was as good as his marking he'd be our best player this year. Jones has him pipped just.

In Neeld I trust. 3 years to change this hell hole.

Question Why would you go so far backwards even for 800k. Your dreaming if you think Dangerfield would look at us.

Good at least someone gets it the players certainly don't frankly they look like they couldn't give a stuff the pea hearts. We're a commune for well paid spuds and free loaders more concerned about the social status footy at the elite level affords than pride.

Want to fix this mess than its back to the draft and free agency. Matt Rendell should be given the recruitment/drafting job (Mifsud has no credability in that saga) Free agency will be tough for us I can't see many willingly wanting to come to us we will have to pay overs. I have about 6 senior players who are playing for their careers and credibility. They had better enjoy the next 14 weeks I reckon it will be their last. Self belief will only come when the dead wood is cut.

The youth policy hasn't worked. Leading teams philosphy is crap Our recruitment has been abysmal Players have no spirit or guts

What's the point of all this Where's the pay off Where is the bottom The stickers are off the car 186 now this [censored] I've had enough of this embarrassment

I'm going down there Monday to eyeball these bastards and tell then what I think.

How many careers are these selfish pricks willing to sacrifice.

Game over well done to all involved. Really did the jumper proud. I've never called a game after 15 mins this is utter [censored].

What was wrong with Sylvia in the pre season did the club ever say.

Jeez a win would be good. Getting pretty desperate for something to go right.

I don't know if it's been mentioned. I think Sylvia's biggest issue and the reason he will never be an elite midfielder is the chronic OP that he had. I don't think he is able to do all the running required and has to make do being a forward flanker part time midfielder. I maybe be wrong the OP might now be a non issue.

Neeld deserves the same opportunity Bailey was afforded. It is hardly Neelds fault the players can't perform fundamental football skills especially seasoned senior players. All this pain and angst should be directed at the old regime. I said at the start of the season consider this season with the same attitude as the start of 2009. We played unaccountable football and although at times it had flare at soon as there was pressure we folded. Players need to fundamentally adhere to structure and a defensive intent thats polar opposite of what they knew. It will take 2 to 3 years to see the rewards. That's how it is that's where we are I don't like it and I frequently get the shits and crack it. Neeld comes from an elite environment he won a premiership and at the time was in charge of an elite midfield. He needs time to turn the ship and while it sucks I'll let him have a go at fixing the joint.

Howe can't kick for goal that miss was woeful

When will this end what are the positives in this anyone give me something.

What's with starting 15 threads after a game can't all this go in the post game discussion thread.

Wow. I was happy with the effort looked a much better performance at the game I thought I sniffed an upset. The two negatives in my view and I know the conditions were really slippery. Our disposal is really killing we just butchered the ball too many times.

I'm not sure if my sarcasm detector is working or not but in the interests of it currently being broken I ask. What do you identify That I can change or do, to have a real and meaningful impact on the playing groups will to play as professionals I can see problems I can certainly rant about them, i can become despondent, I can be upset not sure how I can change the way we play.

How does North get by on their shoe string budget and seem to always [censored] us for the last 5 years. How does North develop players into the competitors that they generally are. This resource argument I'm often very skeptical about a dumbbell weighs the same no matter were you are. I tend to think it's related to attitude. Sylvia crashes a car and gets suspended - clearly he wasn't too worried about the international rules series and making himself and club look like idiots The Nicholson incident - drinking while in recovery if your an elite sportsman you just can do this sort of thing Davey/ Mifsud - dirty laundry being made public. Obvious Mifsud leaked it but should Davey have given him the opportunity. One senior player in the leadership group The 186 protest or whatever that shizen was. So rather than thinking about a baby sitter or an elite player from another club or a hard arse coach or the fans to get upset or a hyperbaric chamber or Collingwood's facilties. It has to fall back onto the playing group. It's there job go do your job or go stop clogging the list with one good performance every 6 games. The players - they need to set the agenda they need to organise whats acceptable on and off the field. When its your turn you go no holding back. It's no external forces responsibility. Its not resources problem or where they train. It has to be their expectations of each other and when they are not met the actions they take to rectify them.

Jeez that's painful. This just might get very very ugly. Hibernation seems the only option.

Look Neeld is in a lose/lose situation with these post match press conferences following a flogging. If you remember back to the first round Neeld was lambasted for being too emotional, too angry and made the commitment that he must drop players. Subsequently papers write about it for 3 or 4 days and you get headlines like 'Dees in crisis' 'the world is falling apart' etc. Much better off pissing off the loyal supporters who furrow there brow when Neeld highlights the positive to media to avoid negative press the he might generate. Its highly likely that the press conference isn't necessarily the same message told to players or its delivered in a much different way. I much prefer Neeld honey coating a press conference for appearance sake than read all the negative press or so called experts like Matthews chiming in with his Hudson/Clark comment. Your better off not adding fuel to the fire so to speak, so of course he is going to accentuate the good things Its just the average punter cant see very many of them at the moment.

there is an eminent odour of cologne crap about this joint Maybe its the new form of a 'septic tank'.

The next person to suggest we might possibly fix our woes with someone who will come here under free agency is mad This is a cesspool for the pea hearted this club will attract no-one of note its back to the drafting table and even then we cant keep the talent we recruit. or develop it.

I cant believe that when you think this club has hit rock bottom it continues to surprise. I can take losing christ i support this club i have actually become really bloody good at it. This club cant continue to do this it's inhumane there is no spirit at all. There is no endpoint to this slaughter. I'm tired of being disgruntled. I actually like the game of AFL and enjoy it when it's played well, these players aren't playing AFL. There is nothing constructive to be said because you cant make something from nothing and that's all there is at the moment.