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So you're suggesting that Jack Viney himself weighs in with his opinion on whether we should draft his mate, and THAT is how we should run our recruiting department? Don't leave to the decisions to the qualified professionals, ask the other draftees what they reckon FMD

SO EFFING WHAT do you seriously think that is how we should be recruiting players, based on who they are mates with? FCS that is the stupidest thing I've ever heard

Last week I agreed with you, and I am not concerned with how many players the bombers had out, or even the fact we lost on the scoreboard, it's the WAY we played - just fumble after fumble after shanked kick after dropped mark after handballs that missed etc etc etc all night long. It really was deplorable stuff.

As many have already said, he will never get the blame because he won't be here long enough. It puts him in a comfortable spot, which is one of the reasons I have been worried about his limited tenure since day one. He should be like every other coach and completely 'buy in' to the club. Stick it out as long as it takes to fix this mess. That issue aside, he has demonstrated a good return in his first year, improving our average match score from a 52 point loss to 26 point loss (all from the 'points against' column BTW). If the same happens again we will be league average. However, it is pretty hard to see us finishing with a % of 100 after the three NAB challenge games we have just witnessed. It might mean nothing or it might mean everything. Time will tell.

God it annoys me how much importance people place on a player's speed. Of all the attributes of a good player this is one of the least important. It's football not the goddam olympics

there were two instances of a player handballing it to a teammate who had an opponent directly next to him so he was instantly tackled. It is such a stupid mistake it is hard to believe we saw it..twice. Seriously a five year old would have the common sense to realise that you just DON'T DO THAT EVER

what happened there?

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destroy this thread

nah your rearview mirror is all foggy the bootstudder was in the bests more often

Maybe they are giving him a crack at breaking Brad Miller's record for most useless games While to go yet

He WILL learn the difference between breaking through a tackle, dishing off without being tackled, and getting caught holding it - just like Nathan Jones did

and they hit the grog with regularity like normal young aussie men do! Not really allowed if you're a footy player anymore!

and it was 40 years ago, things have changed

Mate - as a number of us have stated in this thread (and others), the fact that we are NOT giving our first year players games straight off the bat is a very GOOD thing. Roos is making them earn it, along with fielding a more mature side that is more likely to win games of football, which we DESPERATELY need to do for the sake of the club. It is the opposite approach of the Bailey/Neeld era which seemed to work on the assumption that high draft pick players would develop more quickly just by putting them straight in for as many games as possible. It wasn't necessarily a bad plan, but history records that it didn't work - the kids got knocked around and suffered huge belting after huge belting and along with tarnishing our image, it made an awful loser's culture at the club - the stains of which we are still trying to wash off. The new approach is mirrored by our recent imports - experienced, proven performers and leaders, the very things we have lacked over the 2007-2013 period. Fielding Vince, Lumumba, Dawes etc instead of Stretch and Brayshaw is exactly what we should be doing - and before you say it, we should also be fielding the likes of M.Jones, McKenzie and Bail before these kids too. Even though these guys are limited footballers they have the bodies and the games behind them to actually compete at AFL level, and besides, it is too early in their careers to declare them finished, to be replaced immediately by 18 year olds. I don't know why you would be so keen to see the kids out there. Have some patience. I for one would much rather see them dominate in the twos, for as long as it takes for them to do it consistently - and to finally be given their chance after being so hungry for it they are starving. Then they come into the side where they are surrounded by a consistent, experienced, stable side - instead of a bunch of other kids, lambs to the slaughter, which is the way we used to do it. Then, just give them a taste, a few games here and there, really really make them perform for their right to be in the 22 over the next 2-3 years. As somebody else (sorry can't remember) said recently 'that's what the good clubs do' and they were exactly right. Roosy knows what he's doing.

Agree totally, I think we all do. This is another short straw for the MFC. 20 goals would be a nice little display of contempt.. probably won't happen though, I'm tipping a similar scenario to last week, well ahead at half time and then with no reason to perform, we'll ease off to win narrowly

struggling to recall many, if any, good games out of Bail's 65

I agree, he has it between the ears

It's a brilliant indicator of the new regime

this this this

Side named http://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/2015-03-18/side-settled-for-third-nab-challenge 1. Jesse Hogan 2. Nathan Jones 3. Christian Salem 4. Jack Watts 5. Jimmy Toumpas 6. Chris Dawes 7. Jack Viney 8. Heritier Lumumba 11. Max Gawn 12. Dom Tyson 13. Jordie Mckenzie 14. Lynden Dunn 17. Sam Frost 18. Daniel Cross 19. Ben Newton 20. Colin Garland 21. Cameron Pedersen 22. Viv Michie 24. Jay Kennedy-Harris 25. Tom McDonald 31. Jack Grimes 36. Jeff Garlett 37. Aaron vandenBerg 39. Neville Jetta 40. Mark Jamar 44. Rohan Bail 45. Matt Jones Not named: Trengove, Brayshaw, Stretch, Kent, Vince, Petracca, Riley, O-Mac, AN-B, Howe, Hunt, White, Spencer, Harmes, Terlich, King, Fitzpatrick