Everything posted by DeeSpencer
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Farewell James Harmes
Woewodin is a versatile midfielder with decent size. Not sure why he’s in that grouping. Sure, he plays half forward at times as most young mids do. Including Pickett we had 6 small forwards on the list in 2022, 7 if you count ANB, that probably is too many. But Moniz-Wakefield is a Cat B rookie and you take what you can get for those bonus spots. Pickett, back up AMW Chandler, back up/competition Spargo ANB, back up Laurie Laurie has looked to be vanilla at AFL level so far. But he’s far from vanilla at VFL level where his skills shine. I have doubts he can do it at AFL level but if he can find a yard of pace and strength he has tricks. So far he’s a rare Jason Taylor misstep but there’s still time for him to change that. Joel Smith was the back up to Hibberd in 21/22. Deakyn Smith was a back up lockdown defender. Rosman was trialled until last year. Kye Turner was added to the list to be an athletic 3rd tall defender. McVee was drafted and we got lucky that he took the back pocket role and did a great job. I’d be finding the best 188-192cm lock down defender in the state leagues and adding them to the rookie list this year but I’m not too concerned we’ve tried to fill that role with rookie picks. Same goes for Chandler, Bedford and AMW with small forward depth.
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Farewell James Harmes
In fairness to the coaches he filled in numerous times at half back after injuries (they day Lever did his knee being one such example I’m 95% sure) and was excellent. Good defensive traits and strong marking for a flanker As soon as he moved there full time he tried to do too much both with and without the ball and his lack of feel for the position was found out.
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Matt Flynn
Still in the race, but I think the Eagles are heavy favourite which might be why we pick off Jamieson. Flynn probably a bit expensive.
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Operation Mihocek & Frampton
Our backline, mids and high half forwards were just about the same all year. And if anything less forward talent and cohesion should be a reason to move the ball faster. Watch how often our backs turn boundary side and go short to a winger or bomb it long. Often after holding it up. And how the 5 defenders without the ball will do nothing more than a token fan out for a switch or maybe point for a corridor kick. It’s a midfield problem too. Langdon will ask for the quick wide handball - but gets it less without Jaiden Hunt to give it to him. Hunter won’t, he’ll go straight for the 15m chip. Brayshaw will make position to get used, which would be good if his decisions with the ball weren’t either hold it forever or bite off more than he should. The other mids will at times but generally they just plug themselves in to the zone holes, there’s no coordinated movement to create gaps and then run in waves from kicks to them. In summer training we used Pickett in the midfield and he’d drop to half back to get kicks and light the ground up. Obviously that didn’t last in to the season. Hopefully it does next year. I’d try ANB, Chandler and even Spargo, Laurie on ball for the same reasons. But also hope we get more from Oliver who at his best is a dynamic runner with the ball (even if the kicking is a mixed bag). Rivers, Bowey, Salem (healthy) and McVee all have the movement and skills to make decisions on the run. They just have to work harder and smarter to get the ball, and our tall defenders have to trust them. Lever and May take intercept marks and rather than take the game on like Howe and Moore they call for a time out and stop the ball moving.
- Trade Rumours 2023
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The Delisted Free Agent Thread
All aboard the Teakle train. Oscar Adams got the chop from the Saints, young key defender with good physical traits. Wouldn’t mind having him train with the club to see if he has something to prove. Flynn Perez is a player I’ve generally liked. Good size, good skills. 2 ACLs have hurt his development but there’s some class to him. I assume North think he’s a bit position-less. Bonner is an ok half back flank but is too much of a one way player for even Port. Not quick or skilled enough to really be a weapon, I’d rather go for a lockdown defender. Isiah Winder has talent, could do better out of Perth and in a stronger team?
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Operation Mihocek & Frampton
I think those numbers are influenced by our players being very good at bashing it down the line and winning contests. And scoring plenty well that way against bad sides. But it’s really tough way to score against good defenses. And nearly impossible to score against good defenders when you don’t have the tall forwards. Apart from that there’s no joy or flair in banging it down the congested wing all day. We’re deskilling our players when we play Ross Lyon ball. Our forwards rarely get any quality service and our half forwards especially rarely get space to show their talent. Think about this: What kind of side would our backline like to play against? The answer is a side that moves the ball like us. What’s the worst nightmare for our backline? A side that can switch the ground and get through the corridor. Our backs have to take more chances and risk turnovers that hurt them in order to create more scores
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Operation Mihocek & Frampton
Not convinced it was coaching. After hot first quarters both us and GWS put the brakes on them. Brisbane aren’t that kind of side so couldn’t hold them as much, but the Pies played a different game because they dominated inside 50’s but struggled to kick goals against a good Lions backline.
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Operation Mihocek & Frampton
Run from behind is just as big a problem. We either have the laziest rebounding defenders in the league, or they are set up/working too hard defensive or they are poorly coached. I suspect a little of all 3. Should be drop for 10 push ups every time the defenders win the ball back and chip it 20m to Langdon or Hunter on the same with the ball came from. The ball has to exit our back 50 through the corridor or fat side and that means defenders and mids willing to run, handball and kick to the space not the safety of the boundary. The work rate of the Pies and Lions backlines when counter attacking is something completely different to ours.
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Operation Mihocek & Frampton
They won because they played high pressure, high tempo footy that allowed them to play the game in their forward half whilst still spreading the ball to find quality scoring chances too. But they also got lucky with low quality chances turning to goals - Sidebottom, De Goey x 2 from outside 50, Crisp which bailed out their lack of key forward impact. Just one of those misses and they might lose and the question would be where are their key forwards? Brisbane got outplayed for most of the game and pulled goals from their backside with a demonstration of forward talent from Daniher, Bailey, Cameron, McCluggage. Defended their back 50 very well too. Overall the lessons from the game were you need forward talent and you need to play fast to score. But Brisbane need a forward/mids coach who can organise them defensively as much as we need one to organise our attack. They don’t chase!
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Trade Rumours 2023
3rd in the grand final sprint yesterday! He had an ok first year. Didn’t get much of the ball and was safe but not all that amazing when he did get it. Seemed to stick to the task defensively but there were plenty of times when he was just at a contest but not owning it with decisive marks or spoils. Once or twice a game he would have an intercept mark or spoil that would make you take notice. In the rehab group for most of last summer though so I expect we’ll know a lot more next year.
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Trading Draft Picks into the Future
North Melbourne thought they were clever hiring Glenn Luff from champion data and trading with us in a deal they won by a billion draft points. We traded back a few picks took Pickett and Rivers and they were premiership players in year 2. They took Tom Powell and who knows what with the 2nd and 3rd rounders. There’s merit in trading down or back but right now we are in a window and could do with talent who easily could be ready in years 2 or 3. The other issue is you can’t control what the future picks are. We trade for a GC. Essendon or Hawthorn future pick and they could easily both finish top 6. Even with additional second or third round picks that’s probably not the big win. When you trade up at least you control the destiny of the picks.
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Trading Draft Picks into the Future
Agree to an extent, I think a standard list of available pick protections (top 5, top 10) is better than allowing teams to get too creative. And that it should be only 2 years of future picks, spaced by a year. So this year you can trade current picks, 2024 and/or 2026 and that’s it. Nothing for years off in the future as it encourages hoarding a heap of picks in a form of tanking pretty much.
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Operation Mihocek & Frampton
Pendles and Sidebottom will drop off soon I hope. Mitchell’s had a couple of important finals but is really close to being ineffective, just does enough of what he’s good at in tight. They’ve got some concerns. And their young mids haven’t been good so far, although I remain very high on Ed Allan. Mihocek was meant to be key defensive depth, he’s been excellent despite his quiet game today. Always competes. Howe was meant to be their gun forward, has become a gun defender. Not sure what the list build lesson is there. If anything I guess the lesson is take chances on guys with upside if they combine contested effort and athleticism. Bobby Hill a great pick up. Markov a lovely freebie on the day he was meant to sign with Carlton. McCreery a super pick. Would like to see our list team identify and take some chances. Kelly O’Donnell’s probably in to his long nap time though so I doubt we will
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Farewell James Jordon
I just can’t see end of first round unless Sydney and us get very ‘creative’. Second round is fair, but the system is stupid so that makes the pick quite late. Third round isn’t unreasonable if he’s not getting a big wage, but again, system and that draft itself is a mess so let’s hope that isn’t the case so we don’t get pick 55+. Really the compensation should be the cap space and we should use it to sign a more suitable player. It should be JJ out, McAdam in as both (or neither) should be free agents.
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Kozzie stage-fright?
I spoke to a former demon last night who wanted to remind Kossie and the current players kicking the ball is all about smooth strokes and not belting the cover off it. Kossie operates at speeds us mere mortals aren’t capable of but you’re right, there’s times he has just take that extra quarter second. And in fairness he’s kicked some blinding goals when he does kick it purely, but there’s chances to either dish off balance up.
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Stuff drafting a kid, poach a key forward.
Charlie’s not an opportunist goal kicker, although when given an even chance he can do that. He’s a link player that relies on other parts of the chain working together. If every player in our side had the attacking work rate, smarts and skills of Spargo we’d hum the ball from end to end. Not saying he’s a walk up start in the side either, but if we want to play faster, cleaner more expansive football that scores more we need him fighting for a spot. I expect he’ll bounce back next year the same way Nibbler did in 2021.
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Stuff drafting a kid, poach a key forward.
How many would he average if our half backs ran and kicked the ball to the fat side and then to Charlie streaming open at half forward? He’d go from 10 to 15 very quickly. I also don’t care how many goals he kicks if he lands the ball on a forwards chest inside 40 and within the corridor 2-3 times a game.
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Trade Rumours 2023
A ruckman is an absolute must. Would be straight up list management negligence to go in to next year with Max, Schache, Verrall and not a genuine back up ruck. Key forward should be a must, but I’m wondering if they address it with train on players rather than making a move. Give me the 3 best delisted/state leaguers/overlooked kids and let them battle it out over summer. The draft has always made sense for mids and runners apart from 1-2 cheap back ups if they fit just to fill the list turnover.
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Kozzie stage-fright?
Made some errors but not many small forwards have 9 shots in 2 finals. Charlie Cameron was mostly stinky last week. Jamie Elliot’s kicked 1 goal in 2 finals. Bobby Hill hasn’t done much since his first quarter against us. I’m hoping for a more mature, calmer, more complete Pickett next year but overall I thought his ability to go to full forward and create chances was impressive and very close to turning around or winning both games.
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The 2023 Draft and Trade Targets Thread
Dogs apparently have a future first on the table too, no doubt for later picks in return. But it takes a lot of top picks to climb high in the order. You don’t get them for unders.
- AFLW: Rd 05 vs Geelong
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AFLW: Rd 05 vs Geelong
Banno on the wing. Heath getting significant midfield time. Rightfully saving any midfield time for Paxy for second halves. Maddy Gay forward to ease her through the year. 3 talls, Goldy, Lampard and Blaithin down back when it’s probably Heath and Gay on the flanks of our best backline. (And Blaith on the wing please). Plenty of rest for Loz Pearce on the pine or forward. Zanker to CHF with Tay out. Mick’s really mixed up the side tonight and through the year. They’re getting good training in roles and positions.
- AFLW: Rd 05 vs Geelong