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Salem is borderline but not quite, lacks penetration for a half back. 20-30m out of congestion he’s amazing but he’s not a weapon. Fritsch is very close, I’d say an elite kick for goal but I don’t want to curse him in to another slump. Did you see Hunter’s first 2 shocking kicks yesterday? Or him struggle any time he has to kick more than 30? He’s barely an average kick these days. Bowey and McVee, nope, not yet.

Goodwin and Longmuir were asked a lot of questions on 360 about dangerous tackles. Both suggested players should be careful not to milk free kicks. I had the distinct feeling Longmuir was indirectly referencing Sprago. I had the distinct feeling Goodwin was doing the same with Murphy. He felt the spin and face planted.

Jack Viney an elite kick and Choo Choo that's Oliver yeah? Literally the second worst kick in the comp of the early rounds this year. If Oliver could even get himself to an average kick he'd be the undisputed best player in the comp, that's how far off it he is.

That change would allow Brayshaw to play part time on the wing and give us more height if needed. Or even Gus full time wing and use Hunter and Langdon across half forward.

They are at times, but Bowey is a much stronger aerial player than Hunter at this stage of his career no matter the height difference.

In terms of half backs: Rich, Tom Stewart, Darcy Moore, N Daicos, Hayden Young, Sicily, Bailey Dale, Jake Lloyd, Jayden Short, Tuohy Mids: Bont, Jordan Dawson, J Daicos, Z Merrett, Pendles, Sidebottom, JHF Forwards: Jezza, Hawkins (field kicking), Tex, Gryan, Larkey

Geez Robbo looks well. The hair plugs have done him wonders

From what I remember seeing of Bowey as a junior he wasn’t really a natural at making play when he was at half forward or at pressuring. Looked better on the wing I wouldn’t mind seeing him as the 3rd winger and a very high half forward coming up to stoppages and even as a midfielder post centre bounce. More of the role Nibbler But I’d have to trial it at Casey first.

Happened twice. Against Murphy for the Fritsch off ball free and another one in the 3rd where he replaced Moore

You can drop one of these for an extra mid. You can’t drop all 3. Nibbler had an absolutely Nibbler of a first quarter but geez he was pretty good after that. Chandler hit the post twice. Pickett was quiet but pretty close. Small forward struggles in a high pressure game, wow, there’s a surprise. I suspect Spargo might have a week in the 2’s but that will be it. The others aren’t getting dropped for Moniz-Wakefield or Sestan.

Depends on your definition of elite, but for mine elite kicks are guys who lace the ball a variety of distances and routinely hit corridor kicks. Salem’s always been undervalued for his contested work, marking, positioning, tackling and slightly over valued as a kicker. If he was unquestionably elite he’d take more kick outs.

Shaun Grigg was a proper solid footballer. Jacob Townsend is the short term aim for Joel. Come in later in the season, compete in the air and provide immense defensive effort and run to be an outlet.

Salem is a borderline elite kick, good vision but limited penetration. Bowey and McVee aren’t elite either but the hope is they keep growing. The 30m up and under king Hunter sure isn’t. Spargo is an elite kick for his role but he needs to get more than 3 of them. Fritsch can be. But it’s incredible how well we play given how limited the foot skills are particularly across the midfield.

6. Viney 5. Salem 4. Tracc 3. May 2. Gawn 1. Gus Fritsch, McVee, Rivers, Sparrow unlucky

Salem, Hibberd, May, Rivers, McVee were amazing and Tomlinson played as well as he could. Lever was incredibly ordinary and the Pies caught him in no man’s land and danced all around him pretty much every time they went forward quickly. Had he put an intercepting clinic like he did v Collingwood I’d play him in this role each week but Salem, Rivers and May had as many intercepts and McVee just the one less. Hibberd played full back on Ash Johnson as the third tall. We didn’t need a 4th tall and we certainly didn’t need Brayshaw’s turnover ability in the middle, though he did get his hands on some clearances. He could’ve done Lever’s role, Lever could’ve played Tomlinson’s role and assuming he was not terrible in the few big aerial contests Tomlinson had the game would’ve been the same. We dragged an undermined Collingwood in to a dour defensive battle. If the aim is the lose in a prelim at best we’ll keep this set up. Barring Tomlinson making big strides in his defensive reliability whilst somehow still lacing targets on his left, Lever improving his mobility to levels that allow him to chase smaller forwards and not look completely inept and Hibberd keeping the fountain of youth we’ll be too slow, too defensive and lack the kicking skills to bounce the ball out effectively. If we want to go further we need a backline with more run, skill and speed for when we play the real Collingwood.

Phillips was very much an outside mid, Brown looks much more of an on baller with tackles and contested footy a big part of his game. Smaller, quicker inside mid with a lean frame but good contested work. Maybe a bit Darcy Parish like?

If we win by dragging them in to a defensive battle my opinion won’t have changed. If there’s flare, risk and the forward line functions I’ll re-asses. Carlton game was a step in the right direction in terms of our use from half back but our forwards were still a mess and the midfield didn’t exactly link up like a well oiled machine either.

The pies will win comfortably and the reason is simple: We still haven’t developed a corridor game and we simply won’t be able to score enough without one. Meanwhile the Pies will get to 80 points no matter how good we are defensively because they’re a constant attacking threat. They consistently open the corridor which creates space and wrecks defensive structures. Salem played his best game since the grand final, Rivers is trying to do the right things and McVee is showing promise but there’s still not enough bounce at half back. If Gus goes back to replace Bowey that isn’t helped either. Langdon creates overlap run in his own way but it takes a lot to go right to goal from Eddie overlaps against elite defences. Our forwards haven’t timed their leads to his kicks at all this year. Hunter plays slow and gets the ball almost exclusively in the Wayne Harmes zone millimetres from the boundary and doesn’t have the confidence or penetration to kick the ball back to the corridor. I’d play him on the right wing so he is forced to roll corridor side but that will probably mess with his defensive and outlet positioning. We don’t have a CHF to do what Geelong do to Collingwood which is hit up Jeremy Cameron often at the point of the centre square. It was nice to see Fritsch up the ground in the second half v Carlton rather than always attempting to break Josh Jenkins’ record for out the back goals but at best he’s Kmart Jezza and undersized at centre half forward. We won’t be able to use Petracca as a de facto CHF without Oliver or braving significant midfield minutes to small forwards. And none of Chandler, Spargo, ANB or Pickett have shown the ability to rack up big touches through half forward - which isn’t their fault, they’d have to be super human to win a stack of ball from long down the line footy. Hopefully we put up a great effort and who knows, maybe we get lucky, but there’s a clear gap in the capabilities of the sides and pretending we can flick a switch to form and tactics from 2021 isn’t reasonable.

Not sure how ‘pointed’ this barb was. We value Grundy’s follow up work and he’s had some excellent moments in that aspect of the game. Goody’s giving praise for the strongest part of Grundy’s game. Tap work, marking, defensive concentration lapses and whatever we’ve done with his decisions to handball at shoddy times rather than kick, less so. Did the Pies purely hate his style or did they just think Darcy Cameron was a better bet at his age and contract? There’s also a significant chance we salary dump someone over the next few years, we’ve already tried it with Tommy Mc post 2020. The explosion of long term deals on big money has meant all clubs are likely to face difficult cap decisions.

Hibberd can’t replace Bowey. Too slow. He’ll be in for Tomlinson. Gus back, who’s no good as a midfielder anyway, and a fresh mid in.

If they do go JJ I’d have him tag Pendles fairly aggressively too. The focus on Nick Daicos has never been right to me. Don’t fire the rest of Collingwood up by attempting to get in to him. Try to corral him from the corridor and get him the other way. Pendles is the one to attempt to unsettle his composure with the ball

JJ or Taj? Head says JJ is the safe choice, but we need zip and energy around the ball.

It wouldn’t shock me at all, given the club have access to hospital care a short course of IV antibiotics could speed up recovery. Would obviously mean more doubt about his availability for Monday.

https://twitter.com/edbourke6/status/1666284703241105409?s=46 not sure why this isn’t embedding WHE and McStay available, Lipinski and Elliott likely

McVee maybe with some handover to Rivers will be on Elliott regardless. Hibbo isn’t up for chasing the smalls these days. If McStay comes in then I’m tipping Ash Johnson comes out. 4 tall forwards is unlikely. I’d still rather play Hibberd on McStay or Mihocek than give that job to Tomlinson. Better to give away height than to give away mobility.