jnrmac

Who has led the club this year? No-one. Beemer maybe but when the heat has been on he has been wanting. The only on field leaders have been Trengove, Howe, Jordie and Watts. Davey deserves no excuses. I have no idea why you would include him there. He has been poor all year and was on the verge of getting dropped when he got an injury. His performance on the weekend was not that of a leader. They even highlighted his poor effort on OWAAT. And Bartram's game on the weekend shows why we will never be a top club if we stick with players like that. Cruelled us with skill errors. Tried really hard as he always does but just unacceptable and must be moved on. As for Morton, trade week can't come quick enough for me.

Not the year for a cleanout unfortunately. We get rid of a bunch of spuds for what?....... More spuds. Our first pick will be what, 35?? Not saying we can't pick up a good player but a raft of them. Na.h

I don't get. They were "flying" in pre-season. FMD. What a soft club we are.

Not the year to be drafting sad to say. And trading I suspect should happen but won't.

You're dreaming bud. Has been shiite all year. name me one game in 2011 where he has played half decently??

+1 Unbelievable draw. No momentum or game plan in the pre-season. And we stuff it up. Pathetic. And from Todd Viney " we are not worried about game plan we are just trying to build bigger bodies". Even more pathetic. OUR LOSING CULTURE SUCKS. WE ARE A SOFT CLUB. Demand more peeps.

LAZY, LAZY PLAYER. NO 2ND OR 3RD EFFORTS. Hungry and full of himself. Not worth $4.50 let alone $450k.

I'm outta here.

Goal to Petterd

Are Davey or Morton playing?

+1

Blease has shown something. Howe takes a speccy. Monty for the best first year player.

Wow. Just ineptitude. Loose players everywhere. 5 x 10m chip kicks and GOAL. Centre bounce infrimgement to WCE.. OMG.

50 pts to 9. Has been in our fwd line maybe 4 times??

Training drill. There are so many loose WCE players in our fwd line its F******. Why do we play 10m off our man in defence????? Why can't we pick players up. In't s not a hard game. Our players are so STUPID. Their attack on the footy is under 18s like.

Oh dear. Cox is playing. I hope Jamar is OK to go.

Agree he has had a terrible year but like the last 4 years our delivery into the fwd line has been terrible also. Will play next year, no question.

Jon Ralph suggested Jamar (pronounced Gem argh FFS!!) hasn't trained for a few days and was unlikely. Also that Cox was doubtful.

One thing I have been told by someone at the club is that we are trying to implement a press and use tactics to defeat a press (could have fooled me). But it is heavily reliant on players playing a role and filling a spot. Only one player out of place and it looks like a sieve with good sides cutting through it with ease. This has been our problem. Our players don't work hard enough or for each other. Hence most times we look second rate trying to do this. The well drilled teams look impenatrable. Its no secret who they are and they have mongrel coaches and good on field leaders. It was hinted that Sylvia was one of the worst offenders and hence his dropping last week. Will watch with interest today. It's sunny here now but supposed to rain later on. Hopefully it holds off (I know, there is a roof)...

Last time we got killed by the press. Could hardly get it out of our 50m defensive zone. Let's see if we have learned anything today!

Malthouse did say something like that but he is the master of obfuscation isn't he? It suits his purpose to say that. He has also said he wants to continue coaching. So the two statements don't align do they given he has committed to the Pies next year (and contractually for the next 2 years). You say you would believe Malthouse but we know that Malthouse broke his contract at the Weagles to come to Collingwood. So what he said I take with a grain of salt.

OK you have said it now. You don't like him - intensely. So maybe your view is a little jaundiced.

Move on. PLease...

What experience did Schwab have?? None. He has worked infooty al his life and done a few business courses. I think its a problem.

I guess you don't rate coaching at VFL level as being in the game.