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That was damning and showed a real structural problem May and Lever pushed high up the ground Hill or the other Coll fwds would sprint as soon as the Pies won possession and outnumber us in our D50. They had multiple players free on many occasions and they kicked straight. We let them use the corridor and we were stagnant and refused to look inside. they showed vision where - a number of times - we had multiple players free in the middle but we stopped and then kicked long down the line. Absolutely to instruction. We are out in straight sets again unless he changes something.

I think there were 92000 people at the ground who knew Cox would do that. Max seemed to be the only one unaware..... Real potential for damage Cox is a dog and the Umps do him no favours

She also made mention of Maynards comments in the lead up to the game which I presume was where he was asked who did he want to hurt - All of them.

All of them was the answer

You only have to look at the Brisbane game when gawn went down to see how players are affected.

And they talked about how Maynard was quoted in the lead up as saying they would come out hard. He stuffed up and must pay the price.

Last year when tackled Langdon - after the all duck no dinner comment - he smashed his head into the turf and won a free kick Unbelievable.

And its so blindingly obvious. That we continue to do it says it is our strategy. And how f*ing dumb is that

Don't mind this. Start him in the middle and he can even move back after the bounce.

The question for me is by playing Grundy as first ruck we lose the dominance of Max around the ground. But Grundy is likely to at least break even and has the talent and drive to be outstanding. Max fwd loses some of his dominance BUT creates a huge problem for oppositions and opens up opportunities for our small forwards. Goodwin has a habit of not making big changes and will justify our loss v Coll as 'we won 2 and half qtrs we just couldn't kick straight.' But again we started slow and allowed the Pies to bang on 3 goals. FFS we have to change things or we will have the same result and be out in straight sets two years running. For a start we need to fire them up before they get out on the ground. CHange the routine. This is big and we need them firing from the frst bounce. We can't afford to give other teams a 3/4 goal head start. We are fit and our final qtrs are strong so jump out of the blocks and bring the heat. Oh and we have to move the ball quickly. Our stagnant movement kills us.

Was recruited with Bowey. They are poles apart i know we tried to keep Bedford but geez he'd be a massive upgrade On Laurie

Noticed that May was way up the ground for a lot of the night and we gave away a huge number of goals out the back. We couldn't stop their ruin through the corridor and overlap handball. Structure was off Grundy/ thommo for mine and Jordon or Woewodin Tmac and Laurie out And i would rather see dirty ground balls than 50m bombs. We've learned nothing in 3 years

And it could be argued that pickett has modified his behaviour after being suspended for the Smith bump He rarely goes for the body now and often'pulls up' after trying to put pressure on. Maynard is a long term thug whose behaviour should be rubbed out of the game. The opportunity is there for the AFL or else duty of care is extinguished. Any thug can run straight at the body front on and claim it was a footy action. He had choices but once you leave the ground you're beholden to the result. There was no duty of care, he was late, a totally unrealistic attempt he went for the body, turned and shouldered his head If the Afl is serious he had to go. As should have Cripps and Dangerfield

The last 3 times we have played the pies we have been down by 3 goals or so in the first 10m If you think that's not on the coaches preparing the players i can't help you Let's just keep doing what we always do then and fight back from 30pts down ffs Mcrae is from the Mathews school of coaching. if it bleeds you can kill it It shouldn't have to be said but finals are different

https://twitter.com/UnbiasdOpinion/status/1699744235145306592?t=L0aLNwKxWsdrCeyj2AUzmA&s=19 Pickett spoiled Will Hoskin Elliott and didn't smash his head. So much for a natural footy act Maynard the dog gets 4

Goodwin will say we outplayed them for 2 and a half quarters, just needed to kick straight He won't change anything other than forced change to Brayshaw Grow some balls man. Have we ever tried Thommo fwd for example? Could have played on moore Ha plays favourites and it costs us As for the slow starts. I watch them in the change rooms beforehand and there is no hype no buzz no fever pitch. If steady as she goes, calm, quiet. Get some f'ing aggression and come out firing. Early goals are good in finals

I watched it and yes I was moore p*eed off than I was last night. When we moved the ball quickly we looked a different side. WTF is this waiting with the ball for the opposition to flood back? And Dangerfield (I think) made a good point that Coll would wait (if we flooded back) chip the ball around and force our players to come out of defence to man up. Their fwd line seemed so much more open. The number of times they streamed through the corridor made my blood boil. But they [censored] their pants when we came at them in the last. Instead of 4 OOF imagine Kozzie or Fritsch goaling. The game would have turned on its head.

No you have it wrong. Its not the smother. Its the turn, tucking the arm in and hitting Brayshaws head with the point of his shoulder

Maynard had not even left the ground when Brayshaw kicked it.

Was it avoidable? Absolutely yes He didn't bring his arms straight down. he turned and launched the point of his shoulder into Gus' head. Life Ban for mine.

If Maynard had jumped in the air to 'bump' Gus he would be gone for all money. Does the fact he tried to 'spoil' the kick - even totally unrealistically - change the fact that he collected Gus in the had with the point of his shoulder? There are numerous examples of players contesting the ball and then at the last minute bracing for contact who have been suspended. But then there was Patrick Cripps who left the ground and KO'd Ah Chee from Brisbane A Collingwood veteran on the MRP will help the cause for Maynard I'm sure.

Selfish Bayley re-appeared last night. Burnt players. Jumped on packs with no chance of getting the ball, spoiled our own players Bad habit

Will be a few showers of lightish rain but v windy apparently

Just looking at some Coll games. In 9 games this year they have been behind at 3/4 time. Amazing for a team that is so "dominant" We've got this.

Hawkins was a beast from Day 1 Kicked 5g in his first game against us. He is the polar opposite of jefferson.