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That's often to disrupt opposition plans to tag or niggle him

Disagree. His instinct is to handball straight away. Its not always the best option. Many of his stats are give and go where he will accumulate 3 or 4 stats in a passage of play. I love Clarrie but he has to learn to be more damaging with his stats. When appropriate he needs to burst out of congestion and then deliver to the best option.

Kelly would be a great pick up. The question is the value. Yes you have to pay up to get silk but IMO its really important not to upset the whole TPP situation. If we do get into a window of success we will need a lot of negotiationg room for our current crop.

Don't disagree but how many of those big trades have been successful? Trades like Mummy to GWS and Lake, Burgoyne or Frawley to Hawthorn seem to have more success than the Judd's or Buddy's. They are less disruptive to the playing list and salary cap. To match the price touted for Kelly would stuff us for years in terms of salary cap and player payment 'relativity'. And while he's good he is no game changer yet, IMO.

I think that is clutching at straws. The Boyd deal is in a category all of its own and he was pretty much useless in the lead up to the GF - and pretty much since. Yes he had a great game but I am talking Dangerfield, Buddy, Buckley etc. These deals cripple clubs generally. You'd be better with a Rory Laird / Elliott Yeo type - just below A grade but very solid and 1/3 as much as a Kelly.

Remind me how many have won flags chasing a fish and a pay packet like that? Kelly has all the goods but is still relatively unproven. He plays in a team of champions so its hard to get a form line sometimes.

Totally different roles. Not a like for like comparison.

Hmm as he scans the 2015 draft. Daniel Rioli... Such a waste of time doing retrospective drafting. It's pretty easy though. I think Weid will work out just fine. Good pair of hands and likes to fly at the ball.

Yeah agree but its a bit early. We have done nothing yet.

Not happy with all of the rave reviews about Clarry and Petracca. Nothing good will come of the media jizzing. They need to do it week in week out.

Haven't seen this posted anywhere else but Jack Watts was on radio this morning about Oliver: "He can do it all. I was with (ruckman Max) Gawny last night and he was sitting in the (coaches) box (on Sunday) and he was saying the coaches were having a little fight because Troy Chaplin our forwards coach wanted him (Oliver) to stay up forward and Ben Matthews (midfield coach) wanted him back in the midfield. He is a super player and I think the coach probably put it on him a little bit last year to really become that full-time professional footballer and he's really taken to that and taken his game to a whole new level." Nice.

I recall them saying the Buddy deal and the Boyd deal had re-set the market for key forwards. You had to draft them because they were going to become unaffordable. They choose to take the best Key fwd available.

Not so reliable your friend.....

Sorry Nasher they were totally different. The Weid one was a great scoop off the turf. The Smith one was phenominal. He fended off Smith with one hand and plucked up the ball with the other (Koutafidis like) - in one motion. Both great pieces of play but not similar IMO. The Smith one was perhaps the best piece of brilliance I have ever seen in a 1st year player.

Ask Barry Prendergast....

Still my favourite piece of play. One handed against a 3 time premiership player. Impressive

In the past 5 years every team knew they can beat Melbourne. Even the spooners - it was their one genuine chance for a win. I suspect that will change this year.

It's usually a player from another club doing it to us.....

Slobbo

Like Google and Facebook are now censoring content they deem to be offensive. In the new Orwellian world if you don't fit the narrative you get howled down or deleted.

If you did the schoolyard test and lined them up against a wall to select a team you would take Oliver over Parish every day. They'll both be good players but Oliver does things that most players can't do.

That is an insult to the Donald

They gave thousands of injections and received rebates from Medicare. I am pretty sure this was canvassed during the hearings and it was a clear scam. Dr Reid raised the issue of Medicare claims. The players testified that this was the case and here, Elliott and Wallis allege it again. So it may be heresay but given the tardiness of worksafe - that didn't even start investigating the matter until 17months AFTER the scandal became public - I am sceptical about government agencies doing their jobs properly when the scandal is a political football

So the latest "bombshell" from Slobbo is that Wallis and Elliott are suing the club. Their evidence includes how the club ripped off the medicare system. It's amazing how in some cases how clear transgressions like the allged abusing of the Medicare rebate for the thousands of injections just simply get ignored. If Worksafe came to my workplace I would be heading to the slammer had I done the same thing as the EFC. Why do authorities look away?

A gift to their long suffering supporters for sticking with them through thin.....