sue

That's exactly opposite to what the AFL usually does though. Good to see how brave Stevic is to not feel intimidated. Would he ever say anything else?

re: measuring on outcome I also think the AFL is wrong. But being aggressive to an umpire is completely different to tackling dangerously or swinging fists randomly where there is a physical outcome. Unless a player knocks out an umpire, there is no obvious outcome - any outcome is more intangible or distant, like the number of 10 year olds who subsequently deck the 16 year old umpires.

and especially because as a top player himself, it looks like self-interest. If he was charged with something, it wouldn't help him at any tribunal I sat on. Of course the AFL doesn't have my personal level of integrity. (I like to keep the bar low).

Disappointing remarks from Petracca IMO: https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/teams/greater-western-sydney-giants/afl-news-2021-toby-greene-contact-with-umpire-special-treatment-video-what-happened-reactions/news-story/6cd7d9f1a58a26d992d5cd5853c72ee6 Better to say nothing

Should be reported for that, but won't be because the TV commentators ignored it.

I think you are right. What really gets up my nose is the TV commentator immediately saying it looked like Toby was just going to one of his mates or something similar. Instantly finding excuses for a star player when blind freedy could see he was in deep discussion with the umpire and had no regard to his team mates at all. Typical.

Seems some are thinking Greene may be rubbed out for 2 weeks. Probably won't be rubbed out at all.

I agree, though it might be necessary to have some limit on who is considered to be in that premiership team. For example, a player plays one match in round 2, fails to make any impact, indeed causes a loss, is dropped, never plays again, team wins flag. Whatever you do there will be odd and borderline cases. As you say, it would raise retrospective arguments.

Isn't it true that typically the winner is rarely from a top club because team mates share the votes? So Oliver would be unlikely.

Wow. You would decide Policy using a single year’s data. Worthy of the AFL.

Some are assuming that what Goodwin says in public is the same as what he says to Jones in private and that Jones is not aware of the reason for the difference.

I don't understand why umpires tell the players the rules at all. (I'm OK with them explaining decisions - that's different.) As one example amongst many, do players really need to be told to stay on line when kicking after the siren? (not that I heard Max being so advised - did anyone?). However when the question is a matter of distance it does make more sense to advise a player they are getting too close. Especially since umpires have varying ideas of what 5, 10 and 15 metres is depending on phase of the moon and other imponderables.

Looks like I'll have to call you young dee now I know you are 2 years younger than me. I was standing at the pocket at the other end - maybe why I've subsequently been at the other end of the pessimism/optimism scale to you. (Not really but it seemed a good line...)

13

I wonder what other old members who saw the 64 GF think of this win compared to that? This may be a bit controversial, but I felt in some ways last night was better. In those bygone days we sort of expected to win premierships (apologies to you young whippersnappers). It was great of course with a nail biting finish but ho hum, yet another flag. But all these subsequent years of pain (and 186 and Geelong in general) made last night something special. Now to start getting that ho hum feeling back again.

Should be fined at least

Yes. But he pretended it did

I think TRIGON was referring to Covid travel restrictions. He's not a movie star so he may not be able to travel.

Surely if they act they have had to do it before now given Melbourne has to name a side tonight. The AFL cannot assume that a player on the list will not be selected - who knows - we might want to rest Gawn of whatever (I'm not suggesitng it, just that the AFL cannot dismiss the possibilty). Furthermore if they banned him now, where is his right of appeal before we select a team? So maybe they are waiting to see if he is not listed in the team or even as an emergency. Then it would be 'fair' to begin proceedings in time for next week.

Who is they?

Since when did Fox start putting ads up at ball ins They forget to remove them when the play starts too often and with their overuse of closeups it blocks my view of when the players last shaved

The Like button is not enough. I couldn't agree more.

Are there any behind @old dee? (just kidding)

Not going for the ball at all. How he gets away with it is beyond comprehension

I thought the question should have been did he start to mark it before it crossed the line. Couldn’t tell from the video shown. They didn’t appear to consider that