Everything posted by Nasher
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Jack Martin
You want Bennell, but don’t want Murray because he’s a DH? That’s a pretty hefty double standard I would have thought.
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Gun target - Key Forward recruit?
I would have been happy to grab Membrey or Bruce. Bummer. Membrey is a much better player than he gets credit for on here - definitely more than just a Kent Kingsley (and so was Kent Kingsley, incidentally). He’s a 40 goal a year forward consistently and aside from one run of the yips in 2017, is accurate in front of goal. Ah well.
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Farewell to Our First Pick in 2020
It’s definitely weird logic. We could have not traded second rounders for the likes of Hibberd and Melksham, and played draft lotto instead and *maybe* (I’d say 1 in 10 chance) got a player of their quality, and not had two players in their prime who played critical roles in a team that reached a preliminary final. I’m struggling to see how that’s better.
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The 2019 Draft and Trade Targets Thread
Is keeping Daniher really a realistic option for Essendon once he tells the club he’s gone though? If he really doesn’t want to stay, if they keep him captive I really doubt that’s going to lead to the player fully committing to the cause, which is essential in such a high performance job. They’ll have a deadweight on their list until his contract runs out, and then he’ll just walk. There’s also no way Sydney will cough up a player of any value that they don’t want to lose unless another constraint dictates the need to. They know Essendon are full of crap. Daniher will get to Sydney, there won’t be any other players involved, and Dodoro will be shown to be all bluster. Again.
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Farewell Sam Frost
The same people who voted in the B&F are the same ones who decided he was surplus to requirements. What that tells me is that B&F finish isn’t a good indicator of how the FD rate a player, even if they acknowledge that he had a pretty good season.
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The 2019 Draft and Trade Targets Thread
It might have been that I was thinking of. It’s funny watching them operate though. They seem to be the only ones who actually try to operate in the way mug footy fans think it should work.
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Why are the Saints so attractive?
It’s not really the Josh Mahoney style (months of legwork is usually involved in our trades), but I’d be wondering what pick 26 or the next year second rounder we got from Hawthorn might shake loose. With all that still to do, you’d think they’d be interested. You would also think they’ll be tight on list space with 2 players being traded out and 5 in.
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Why are the Saints so attractive?
They need to get on with the Bruce and Steven deals for starters. They’ve bitten off far more than they can chew I reckon.
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The 2019 Draft and Trade Targets Thread
Who was it a couple of years ago that wasted a big chunk of their trade period sitting in arbitration because they couldn’t agree on a deal? From memory it was Essendon and St Kilda over Jake Carlisle. We can’t underestimate the importance of getting your deals sorted early so you can move on to your next item. Mahons must have been stoked when he learned the Frost deal would be done with Hawthorn. Two clubs with a no BS approach to trading; no coincidence it was one of the first trades done. It’s also no coincidence that we’re always one of the most active clubs at trade time. Despite the way 2019 transpired, at this time of year, I always feel like we’re in very good hands.
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The 2019 Draft and Trade Targets Thread
I look forward to the day when an Essendon player says he wants to go to Fremantle or vice-versa. Actually, maybe not, Bellend and Dododo egos going head to head might cause the universe to collapse.
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Gun target - Key Forward recruit?
Thank goodness we’ve narrowed that down!
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WELCOME TO DEMONLAND - ED LANGDON
It’s probably hard to compile those highlights to begin with without watching through every single game he’s played. Guessing that the goals feature a lot just because they’re easier to come by.
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Josh Mahoney in the Media
I just take the view that the trade period isn’t a competition. You go there with your objectives, find clubs that have the opposite objective, shake hands and get it done. No winning or losing, just those who got it done and those who didn’t. I think if every list manager took the view that his or her job was to squeeze every tiny drop out of value out of each individual trade and be as big a tightarse at possible, there would be a lot more “get stuffed ya bastards” type rug pulling like we saw with St Kilda and old mate Bellend. Nothing would get done. The whole thing works on mutual goodwill.
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Are we done now?
Are we done? Lefty, let me introduce you to my mate Josh. With pick 3, next year’s first, and 26 still live, he laughs at the idea we might be done. Lefty, Josh. Josh, Lefty.
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WELCOME TO DEMONLAND - ED LANGDON
To satisfy the ego at the other side of the trade table.
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WELCOME TO DEMONLAND - ED LANGDON
The probability of the player we like being taken between 22 and 26 and there not being another player of similar ilk that we like being available is a million to one. That part of the trade isn’t even the cream on top, it’s the puff of air that comes out of the can after the cream. It’s zero cost.
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WELCOME TO DEMONLAND - ED LANGDON
I wonder how that decision gets made? Do you reckon it means we’re backing ourselves to finish higher than the Hawks, or am I reading too much into it?
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WELCOME TO DEMONLAND - ED LANGDON
Haha, exactly.
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WELCOME TO DEMONLAND - ED LANGDON
Yessssssss. Well done Mahoney and team. Unsure what the point of swapping around 22 and 26 is - that type of trade to me is such a trivial difference that it strikes me as pandering to the petty, but whatever gets it done. Proof of @AshleyH30‘s point in the Frost thread - got to look at the complete picture rather than trades in isolation. No doubting we’ve improved our list in this period so far.
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Hammer Comes Down at the Crows After External Review
Sacked as soon as the board had time to digest the report. He and Burton should be thinking about life after footy now I think, as I doubt they’re employable in this industry anymore.
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Hammer Comes Down at the Crows After External Review
Same here mate, same here. Funny how we all respond differently, I reckon a psych major could write a great thesis on the behaviour of people who invest heavily emotionally in to bitterly disappointing sporting teams.
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Hammer Comes Down at the Crows After External Review
Good to see you’ve returned to your comfy old position of waiting for the sky to fall Clint. I was a bit worried last year that you might have accidentally seen the ray of sunshine peeking out from the clouds. ❤️
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Hammer Comes Down at the Crows After External Review
Far out. What a time to be laying off key staff - in the middle of the trade period where there’s a player exodus and while trying to employ a senior coach. Their board probably had no choice though once the report findings were in. Definitely sucks to be them at the moment.
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Farewell Sam Frost
With only one buyer and an apparent driver to move him on, I think we were in a position where we had to take what we could get. Probably lucky we had a pragmatic trading partner and not someone like Bellend or Dododo.