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Someone at Collingwood would have gotten wind of it and told him to self report before someone else reported it. Standard damage control tactic. The penalty to this is ridiculously lenient. Given that he bet on himself and his own team, he should be rubbed out for two years. His Collingwood teammate Josh Thomas should be totally bewildered.

I just knew someone was going to have posted something like this. I’ve never heard of the guy and don’t follow English soccer, but the argument against fitness guys is always “but injury list”! In elite sport, the fitness group and athletes alike will always be looking to push the boundaries. Injuries will happen. Unless we can specifically point to negligence on behalf of the elite performance manager (or whatever the specific title is), I don’t think it’s a useful metric. In fact I think it’s yet another role that it’s impossible to judge the performance of from the outside.

For what? Pick 100? I’ve never seen the value in discussing which players we would trade until what the actual trade has been proposed, otherwise how are you supposed to assess how the team would benefit? I’d theoretically trade any and all players if the net benefit was team improvement. There are some players where no opposing club is ever going to offer enough to make it worthwhile or justify the risks though. I’d say both Brayshaw and Viney belong in that category.

Personally I’d sack the GWS recruiter for taking Boyd and Kelly at 1 and 2 when Patrick Cripps was available.

You can’t look at the outcome in isolation - you don’t learn anything that way. It’s easy to say Curnow is better than Weideman, therefore we made an error, but it’s a thoroughly hollow analysis. The outcome is a result of a process - it’s the process that should be scrutinised if we want to improve. I can’t wait to hear Matsuo’s thoughts on this - having a crack at analysing a completely opaque process seems right up his alley. The other thing is we have to be realistic about what an acceptable result is from recruiting. Curnow is a star and that’s lovely - Weideman is progressing nicely as an AFL quality forward; that still makes him a successful pick in my views, just an 8/10 though where Curnow might be a 10. There are still so many duds picked in the top 20, even by the good clubs (see Wells analysis above), that any time you get a decent AFL level player, that has to be at least a pass mark. No doubt I’ll hear trite demands of demanding better and not accepting mediocrity and all that other toss, but you have to acknowledge the facts which are supported by the data.

Classic. Not quite what the moderator notes on your profile say!

Stmj is definitely still around, pretty sure I saw a post of his this morning. Dunno about CBF, his name doesn’t appear in the tag list at all. Alias change?

He popped his head in a few weeks ago -cited wrist slasher fatigue (my words, not his) and claimed he was better off without the Demonland downer every week. I feel the same way sometimes. The endless catastrophising and wallowing in self-pity absolutely does my head in. Just reading it makes me feel drained and tired. Then you get the joys of being abused about it when you have the audacity to try and look on the bright side when things aren’t going well. I usually stay away for a few days after losses, was feeling a bit braver this week though. Edit: I quoted the wrong jumbo returns post, meant to quote the one about @Wiseblood.

Is there more to this story, or just the pic?

That is complete garbage. Nothing irritates me more than people making stuff like this up. You are a total muck raker.

Y’know what makes me sad - the fact that it wasn’t that long ago (relative to my life which still seems to be accelerating with every passing year) that Nathan Jones was in the position Gawn is in now. “He’s obviously the leader!” everyone said. “Why isn’t he already the captain?” I’d really like it if we could stop digging the knife in to leaders whenever things go a bit off track. I get it, honestly I do: Jones is declining, we need to start thinking about life after him. He was once our only shining light though and got elevated to where he did because he earned it. I’ve got no doubt he’s still revered and respected by his teammates. How about we go just one whole week without putting him under the blowtorch?

I reckon if we were winning, we’d all be patting each other on the back about how well J.Wagner was just “playing his role” and going about his business as a foot soldier on our march to glory. He’s not that bad a player, but he’s not that good either. The problem is, when your team is poo and you’re looking for a hero, players like Wagner offer no point of difference. He will pretty much always fit in with the scenery. At the moment the scenery is a giant bucket of pus, which is fairly unflattering for the beige players like Wagner.

Disappointing just because I deluded myself in to think this would be better, but really it was just more of the same: getting heaps of the ball but just not translating it in to goals. Heaps of positives from this game though. Lever at 80% added heaps. I thought May in his first full game was good. Our whole backline looked far more cohesive and kept us alive in the first half. Hannan got better as the game went on. Weideman slowly but surely hitting form and becoming a forward threat again. It might be that thing of deluding myself again but I truly think we’re not as far off as ladder position might suggest. Thought Maxy deserved a paragraph of his own. He is simply immense. He’s playing as a genuine midfielder now without giving up any of his other strengths. If we were winning he’d be being lauded as the best player in the game on current form.

That’s silly. Neale is our bloke for starters.

Skills are absolutely killing us. Intent is good - we wrestled control of the ball in that quarter but gee wizz. Hannan dropping it was just one example but was pretty typical of how we’re going. Both Lever and May are only 1% off and looking better than I was expecting. Our defence as a whole looks reasonably well coordinated, they were just hammered. Reckon they’re why we’re closer than we might be. I haven’t given up yet. I think we could steady and claw the lead back. Fingers crossed.

Yep.

Good es, bru.

Yep: https://afltables.com/afl/stats/games/1978/061119780408.html

Just a slight nitpick here- our terrible percentage is almost entirely due to getting belted by Geelong. If we’d scored another 80 points and only lost by a narrow margin, with everything else remaining the same, our percentage would be in the mid 80s. While obviously still far from good, it would be well within the expected range for a team that is 3-8. A big one or two and no more blowouts would get our percentage well back on track.

It’s only picket fence, and it’s because he (picket fence) is a madman.

There’s no issue with not knowing who she is. I haven’t paid that much attention to the AFLW either - although I do know of Lily Mithen as she gets a fair bit of press on the MFC online presence. It’s more around those posting “who?” and the like when it could obviously be inferred from the context of the thread. It goes from genuine ignorance to intentional ignorance. Pretty rude IMO and the only reasons I can think of that one might do that are pretty sinister.

My other favourite is SJW. My goodness, you wouldn’t want to be seen fighting for the justice of others ?

To you it’s politics. To Goodes it’s a lifetime of lived experience. Potato/potarto.

Q1) because they didn’t have an excuse to boo the other indigenous players. I think that the people who claim booing Goodes had nothing to do with his being indigenous genuinely believe that. It’s not that they’re lying about their motives. Everyone consciencely knows being racist is bad, but the generational bias that populates the subconscience takes years to beat out. My mother is a lot less racist than my grandparents were and I’m a lot less racist than my mother, but it will take more generations of social evolutions before this kind of problem is eradicated. We have to recognise it and rally against it in the meantime. Q2) he contributed to it by being born Aboriginal. This question is victim blaming. Q3) until incidents like this cease happening all together, yep, Australia is a racist country.

I’m completely lost as to the link between this rambling nonsense and my post containing my opinion. I’m not the club. My opinions posted on Demonland bear no correlation to whatever culture the club is trying to build with its employees. My posts aren’t the reason for anything, but I’m glad you think highly enough of me to think I’m at fault for the club’s supposed soft underbelly.