Nasher

This thread summarised: I don't understand what this trip is for or what the coaches will get from it, therefore it's a waste of time and money.

Jamie and Harley are distant cousins from memory.

This is the sort of stuff my teenage daughter does with her mates on TikTok. Young men make choreographed dance video in 2019 after a few cans - quick, get the gallows ready!

Yes, this is why we’re talking about picking him out of the dumpster. Obviously if he was in the nick he was in when he was flying, we’d be talking about multiple first round draft picks. The risks are implicit in the price we’re paying, which is sweet FA in terms of opportunity cost (alternative is the 70th best 18 year old). His salary is a sunk cost - we have to pay someone.

There’s always one mung bean who posts something like this. Stretch played 47 AFL games, so it can’t have been that obvious he wasn’t going to make it. He also played the majority of those 47 under Paul Roos, and seeing as you know more than him, no doubt you’re in hot demand as an AFL coach. Oh, you’re not? I don’t expect anyone to shed a tear over a player who has fallen short of the grade being delisted, but I don’t think it’s a big ask to show some respect, or if you really can’t do that, STFU.

I’m not that particular - I don’t mind if our next great small forward isn’t indigenous, nor do I mind if out next indigenous great isn’t a small forward.

Looking forward to “The The Chazz Thread”!

You want Bennell, but don’t want Murray because he’s a DH? That’s a pretty hefty double standard I would have thought.

I would have been happy to grab Membrey or Bruce. Bummer. Membrey is a much better player than he gets credit for on here - definitely more than just a Kent Kingsley (and so was Kent Kingsley, incidentally). He’s a 40 goal a year forward consistently and aside from one run of the yips in 2017, is accurate in front of goal. Ah well.

Jack Hannath?

It’s definitely weird logic. We could have not traded second rounders for the likes of Hibberd and Melksham, and played draft lotto instead and *maybe* (I’d say 1 in 10 chance) got a player of their quality, and not had two players in their prime who played critical roles in a team that reached a preliminary final. I’m struggling to see how that’s better.

Is keeping Daniher really a realistic option for Essendon once he tells the club he’s gone though? If he really doesn’t want to stay, if they keep him captive I really doubt that’s going to lead to the player fully committing to the cause, which is essential in such a high performance job. They’ll have a deadweight on their list until his contract runs out, and then he’ll just walk. There’s also no way Sydney will cough up a player of any value that they don’t want to lose unless another constraint dictates the need to. They know Essendon are full of crap. Daniher will get to Sydney, there won’t be any other players involved, and Dodoro will be shown to be all bluster. Again.

The same people who voted in the B&F are the same ones who decided he was surplus to requirements. What that tells me is that B&F finish isn’t a good indicator of how the FD rate a player, even if they acknowledge that he had a pretty good season.

It might have been that I was thinking of. It’s funny watching them operate though. They seem to be the only ones who actually try to operate in the way mug footy fans think it should work.

It’s not really the Josh Mahoney style (months of legwork is usually involved in our trades), but I’d be wondering what pick 26 or the next year second rounder we got from Hawthorn might shake loose. With all that still to do, you’d think they’d be interested. You would also think they’ll be tight on list space with 2 players being traded out and 5 in.

They need to get on with the Bruce and Steven deals for starters. They’ve bitten off far more than they can chew I reckon.

Who was it a couple of years ago that wasted a big chunk of their trade period sitting in arbitration because they couldn’t agree on a deal? From memory it was Essendon and St Kilda over Jake Carlisle. We can’t underestimate the importance of getting your deals sorted early so you can move on to your next item. Mahons must have been stoked when he learned the Frost deal would be done with Hawthorn. Two clubs with a no BS approach to trading; no coincidence it was one of the first trades done. It’s also no coincidence that we’re always one of the most active clubs at trade time. Despite the way 2019 transpired, at this time of year, I always feel like we’re in very good hands.

I look forward to the day when an Essendon player says he wants to go to Fremantle or vice-versa. Actually, maybe not, Bellend and Dododo egos going head to head might cause the universe to collapse.

Thank goodness we’ve narrowed that down!

It’s probably hard to compile those highlights to begin with without watching through every single game he’s played. Guessing that the goals feature a lot just because they’re easier to come by.

I just take the view that the trade period isn’t a competition. You go there with your objectives, find clubs that have the opposite objective, shake hands and get it done. No winning or losing, just those who got it done and those who didn’t. I think if every list manager took the view that his or her job was to squeeze every tiny drop out of value out of each individual trade and be as big a tightarse at possible, there would be a lot more “get stuffed ya bastards” type rug pulling like we saw with St Kilda and old mate Bellend. Nothing would get done. The whole thing works on mutual goodwill.

Are we done? Lefty, let me introduce you to my mate Josh. With pick 3, next year’s first, and 26 still live, he laughs at the idea we might be done. Lefty, Josh. Josh, Lefty.

To satisfy the ego at the other side of the trade table.

The probability of the player we like being taken between 22 and 26 and there not being another player of similar ilk that we like being available is a million to one. That part of the trade isn’t even the cream on top, it’s the puff of air that comes out of the can after the cream. It’s zero cost.

I wonder how that decision gets made? Do you reckon it means we’re backing ourselves to finish higher than the Hawks, or am I reading too much into it?