Lord Travis

That contract is already biting them and will continue to do so for many years to come. No player is worth a 7 year contract, let alone a ruckman. He'll be getting paid $1,000,000 still at 34 years old! Probably the biggest list management [censored]-up of all time. Cheers to the Pies destroying themselves!

Pick 65 is a steal if Hawks have got the cap space to pay him then fair play to them.

Any more murmurs on signing Marley Williams as a delisted free agent? Reckon he'd be good value small defender depth with Jetta on his last legs.

This is a myth and was disproven a few pages back with lots of footage and stats. Ben Brown took more contested marks than Jeremy Cameron in 2017...and 2018...and 2019... is Jeremy Cameron a lead up only forward? If so, why is he worth more than two first round picks? Brown will be a steal and is possibly one of the best suited players to us in the whole league. I'm still pinching myself we'll land him. He'd be our most productive forward since peak Neitz. Even if he goes at half his peak output, he'd still be our leading goal kicker. He's that good!

Hard pass.

Covered ad nauseum in this thread. He's out of contract. He had a falling out with North over personal issues relating to death of his unborn child and subsequent treatment where he was asked to leave his grieving wife and other baby to play. He was made to play with knee soreness, which caused further injury. This is about Brown walking out on North, not the other way around. They've essentially thrown their arms up and said yep no contract, sour relationship, cya later! He already passed Melbourne FC medical, so the one injury he's had in his entire career has been ticked off as not an ongoing issue. If we get him for a 2nd rounder, it'll be one of the best trading coupes this century. We should be going as hard as possible to get him.

He'll be getting it from Collingwood, as he's contracted at that price. If he refuses a trade then they have to pay up!

Bit of both. There were rumors we were keen on him, but it seems to have blown up a bit on here. I'd wager we're after him or Archie Perkins, who is a lively mid/half forward with good burst of pace, good agility, good leap and hits the scoreboard. If we get pick 14, one of them might make it to our pick and would be gold.

This has been rumored for a while now. JM stated we wanted to move up the draft board this year. Doggies need points to take their player who will go number 1. We apparently like Macraes younger brother and are targeting 14 to get him. Rumors are it'll happen, and makes sense considering all the picks we've acquired in the 20-30-40 range now.

Far more. In fact TMacs best year rates 4th between the pair. We all long for TMac to return to his 2018 form, but even that was a level below what Brown produced for years. If you rate their seasons when they played as forwards: 1. Brown 2019 - 64 goals 2. Brown 2017 - 63 goals 3. Brown 2018 - 61 goals 4. Tmac 2018 - 53 goals 5. Brown 2016 - 41 goals 6. Brown 2015 - 32 goals 7. TMac 2017 - 23 goals 8. TIE Brown 2014 - 18 goals & TMac 2019 - 18 goals Neither played enough in 2020 to bother commenting due to injury. Brown for a second round pick would be one of the biggest trading coups in recent memory. If he gets to even half his best, he'll win our goal kicking and help our forward structure immensely. Get it done Dees!

Dawson is the good kick and future gun IMO. He's not up for grabs and if he was, we'd be going hard. Hewitt is more a lockdown mid who wins inside ball sometimes. I'd pass as he doesn't fill a need for us.

Hind is a below average player. Can't see why we'd bother chasing him and offering 3 years. He plays like a ****ter version of Hannan, but without the leap. Kicks a goal every second game. He's behind Kent and about 15 others for the Saints. If this is the kind of player we're chasing and offering 3 year contracts too, then we're going nowhere fast. St Kilda stock up on proven talent like Jones, Hill, Ryder, Butler, Crouch, Higgins etc. while we take their discards. So frustrating.

Disappointing he's nominated the Saints. Strange choice too for someone who "just wants to play footy", as Saints have an abundance of half forward-mids in Billings, Butler, Gresham, Lonie, Sinclair, Kent, Hind etc. Saints cleaning up with some decent players traded in last year and this year. We're dropping further behind the 8-ball!

That's exactly why they extended it - to keep AFL in the media spotlight for longer into the off-season. The irony is, by dragging it out, they make it more dull and kill the interest. For me personally, I was hyped for off-season, but with free agency running for a while and now trade week, I've already stopped tuning in and will just check here next week for news and opinions. Same thing goes for draft night. Having it split across two nights is ridiculous. These are kids that 99% of people have never even heard of. This isn't a US sport like NBA where college sports are popular and the kids are older etc. It's just stupid. I think I read they were changing it back to one night this year? If so, good. I've not heard much inside goss since before off-season this year. All I know is we are trying to get up the draft order a bit this year and want TMac off the books.

According to Geelong list manager on Trade Radio, the Cats are interested in keeping lively midfielder Quinton Narkle, but it will be dependent on list sizes. We'll take him off your hands for a cheap price...

I agree and was vocal on here this year about poor selections that were clearly based on favouritism or reputation rather than actual output. All comes down to culture. Gotta love the c word!

If that’s true then it’s us bending someone else over for once!

They should reduced free agency period and trade week period to just be a week. Stop drawing the [censored] out and just get it done. If they want to drive excitement, then that's how to do it. When it's dragged out, we all tune out.

The contract wasn't a huge mistake, it just hasn't worked out due to injury. Tom was very very good in second half of 2017 and 2018. He kicked over 70 goals through this period and was standing up amongst the best key forwards in the comp. He was coming into free agency. We signed him for 4 years. That wasn't a huge mistake. What's happened since is a player who's been plagued by ongoing foot injury issues. It's been unfortunate for both the club and Tom. It's unlucky. He's worked his [censored] off, his work ethic can't be questioned. His talent hasn't just disappeared. His body has let him down. It didn't help matter that the clubs fitness team got him to add muscle bulk to his upper body, which exasperated his foot issues. The club is now stuck with him contracted for another 2 years on a high amount (circa 700k). It's a big price to pay for someone struggling for both fitness and form. Unless another club has heaps of cap space cleared up (Essendon?), he won't be going anywhere. If he does stay, hopefully he can drop weight and find form again, most likely down back IMO.

This will be a token trade to help out the player. We won't be getting much value for him. He was a pick 46 in 2017, we'll probably get a pick in the 50s back for him. Will always remember that running goal against the Cats in finals!

Will likely be a future 3rd or 4th.

Saints loading up for a flag tilt. Fair play to them for attracting and securing established talent. Would gladly take every player they’ve traded in over the past 12 months. Let’s see if it pays off in the next few years or if they crash and need another rebuild. They’ve definitely gone past us now.

You take that risk and force a trade that benefits your club more. What’s the point of the system if no one ever matches?

Why would they not match it if that’s all they’re getting? They probably could’ve got more by trading him. Odd decision.

Traded to GWS for pick 54. Ouch! We cashed out at the right time. He likely won't be on an AFL list in two years time. What a massive fall from grace.