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Red..The ACC told Vlad they had deep reservation about the carryings on of a particular club in relation to certain performance enhancement drugs . These being AOD9604 and Thymosin Beta 4. These emanating form the Danks affair. The ACC informed Vlad as some sort of courtesy and warning of impending involvement of other ruling authorities as a result of these investigations. No team was mentioned thats true , however Vlad must have been fully aware of the AFL's suspicions about Essendon and the earlier testing of samples in relation to their nefarious ideas of Player Health Enhancements . In my mind all Demetriou has been simply been following the time honoured practice of "Plausible Deniability" So we get done for something everyone did ...and Essendon gets a helping hand to get out of jail... really ??

sorry Red but thats just incredulous. They knew full well they were doing "kinda norty" things. Subsequent events suggest they took full advantage of that h'heads up" Did they not immediately go on the front foot ....how odd if they werent guilty as all hell

My take on the Vlad 'intervention" is that had not AD called Evans on that particular occasion with that particular news then its more than likely the first Windy Hill would have been wise to events looming was when they got the knock on the door. As it is they got a heads up "psssst...the feds are after someone and its going to happen real soon " and it allowed them to orchestrate their behavior and take 'preventative' actions that they might not have been able to otherwise. I think AD's actions ( though to him possibly justified ) are reprehensible as it perverted the course of justice.

of course he was

thats right. He didnt need to utter "you are being investigated by the ACC" He told them by calling them

Remind me again how many clubs he rang with this concern ?

Players now not joining action and undertake not to instigate action against ASADA . Essendon players choose not to join Hird, club case against ASADA ASADA investigation: Essendon players to remain anonymous

Gloves on ? Id rather see us take the gloves off !!!

This isnt the outside world...it is the agreed world of sporting orgs and their rules.

BANG !!! beggers disbelief huh

I get the idea Roos's measure of Role performance isnt adjudged by champion stats...its more holistic....or gut....or both. Seems to place faith in the intangibles rather than the strictly numbers game.

really...the Beemer....hang you head

the ball will spend a lot of time spilling and tumbling....id set a team for that... lets see what happens

was exactly my thinking

I think this is whats been discussed with him...not his idea per se.

the Depression...isnt that the time between premierships !!

I actually think that Essendon is simply barking up the wrong tree also a bit like the fools who cross a railway line after one train has passed only to get smacked by one coming the other way. Ironic though that much of their hopes rest on the notion that they now somehow understand the rules better than those who wrote them !!!

I sense that the relevant process was followed at the appropriate time for the specific causality. What are they trying to suggest. Anti Dopers only get one shot , one peek at whats going on ? EFC and that contemptable one are wildly flaying with knives in the hope of hitting something. I have a sneaking suspicion that if they went back and read the rules and the code to which that art participant that essentially theyre screwed. But they probably have and do and are just trying to build a new road.

thats a lot of money ... . . . . for the chicken !!!

very likely. But they dont seem to understand ( for mine ) that theres any number of ways that WADA/ASADA will work in with what ever sport is under investigation. That, and essentially as I see it all and sundry have signed up to allow WADA to do what it bloody likes within reason and all this 'technicality' rubbish is just that, irrelevant. A case of all rods lead to Rome, doesnt matter which one's taken as WADA control all of them. (edit... OK All ROADS and Cuisenaire lead to Rome...... first the white, then red, then light green , pink yellow dark green black brown blue and orange... kinda sad I know that....fond memories of those little wooden sticks though . Cuisenaire and Lego....subliminal Maths tutors )

I thought he was going to be driving it !!

Odd. Someone think an innocuous word offensive. I would have though the systemic bastardisation to the health of players to be offensive. Each their own I suppose

not called SPIN for nuttin '

He is ....what he is !!!

he acquitted himself rather well in his NAB outings also... just saying