beelzebub

yes it is.....who wants to place a bet on getting a decision from the tribunal before that ?

maybe things mightnt have got trashed quite so easily

definitely elements in what you say.. especially the likes of Pedo being his direct competition.

The AFL have only just signed the 2015 WADA Code amendments. They are bound by any decisions above them. This for mine is if there's a humourous aspect, its this; that somehow they can sign and smile and give lip service to the world yet carry on regardless and untouchable. They're about to get seriously touched up!!

I wouldnt say donuts Al. There was actually some good work from Chris in that game, alas like most wasnt sustained and his arena dried up somewhat when we 'capitulated" Unlike some he doesnt stop and mooch. he's not always as effective as we'd probably all like but the masses seem to want to paint him as cause raison !!

ladies and gentlemen....I present ...the new whipping boy.....Chris Dawes !!!

This tribunal. ...its all above board. So we're lead to believe. No contrivances here. You wouldn't think it could take quite so long for 3 wise and experienced folk to arrive at a decision. The delay is surely only coincidental The sooner all of this is taken out of the AFLs grubby hands the better. The whole methodology of the League is to bend and shape things to suit. This is no different. Crooked is as crooked does. Roll on WADA

hardly disappointed. Its not over yet

whats a ponny ?

What might you suspect he thought would happen ? thats what is disingenuous. why should he ring then AT ALL ?? he told them the "the 'cops' were after them. What is any felon likely to do ?

go figure

the sooner they become it the better perhaps

thats not right. Danks name had popped up in connection to a number of clubs....even ours As I read it it was more about the involvement of Charters and the links to other nefarious groups. It was here that essendon got mentioned in the despatches ( as it were) The ACC ( imho ) was a little careless in its dealings with the league. They had Essendon in their sights and let Vlad in on this. This was the moment that triggered Vlad giving the heads up to essendon. Again...essendon and no other club were rang that evening . Vlad knew full well what was now going on. He could foresee the fall out. I cant believe for a second that his sole thinking was that essendon might do the right thing here, unless of course doing the right thing was getting rid of the evidence !!

In that I do agree. Not enough of the game has become intuitive to enough of our players. As you suggest...they seem to wait on instructions.Good teams,,,well good players just know when to change their focus and tack according to the ebb and flow of a game. When this on field nouse seems lacking then its down to the box to orchestrate the change ( i would have thought)

The AFl had samples of the players that were later tested...but for what...alas. they werent so much interested in what Hird had taken or used himself but what he was trying to find out about. The League of course warned all clubs... yet strangely only rang ONE that particular evening ..One !! Why just ONE ??

Once Vlad gave Essendon a heads up it gave them time to formulate a path forward. The EFC knew it would seem better to look like they were coming clean but all the whiles they were making sure nothing incriminating was going to appear ( well, from them ) All the whiles whilst seeming to co-operate in the front office they were cleaning up the backrooms. Wouldnt have happen if ASADA had gotten to cold call them

well...something needed to be tried...as in a bit left field as nothing from the box had any effect it seems after the half time break

of course he did. how strange hes not around any more !!

An element to keep in mind was the then fairly recent history ( and therefore knowledge by the League ) of Hirds interest in various 'supplements' The League had already warned him. Indeed samples were considered for testing...back then. Ask yourself...why did Vlad only call essendon.... a lucky guess ? probably not

it was dumb because it was obvious what he had done. He since claimed he wasnt giving any team in particular a heads up...but he only called one club. Not too bright if you want to be seen as uninvolved.

The minute he did that a plan "D" went into action ...Deny , Destroy, Deliberate, Delay, Deceive, Dissimulate, Defer, Distract and Distort what Demetriou did was Dumb and frankly Dishonest

Kinda funny I think , much of this thread. The Op went to the comment by OUR coach that he felt players ( not specifically , but surely inclusive of our own ) watch enough footy. Now as the reference was also about the Dees attending the hawks Cats game I can only think he wasnt so much referring to replays or the edited highlights as he was about watching the game...as a game. Now he obviously had something in mind in saying it and yet some want to argue against him.. Interesting.

touche his kicking WAS woeful...hes worked on it Thats good Noone really called into question his ability or worth , just the balance of things.. lots of goodd work undone by rubbish footy. Hes addressd this.. Again thats good

I suspect the FD is wary of burning the kids out