beelzebub

Might be a very good outside in the making with this lad.

It wasn't the factor that lost us the game as credit where it's due Hawthorn won it . However, the umpiring generally waxedf from curious to atrocious summed up poignantly by the Bernie report. We really seem to cop it from the maggots

Still find it baffling the team will constantly kick to Dawes but often ignore Watts. Dawes did try today and there were some good efforts but he was well held and beaten I'd say. Still not an answer.

Jack's back Onwards and upwards Not a fairytale ending to a gallant journey back but a illustrious beginning none the less the rest of your career. Well done lad.

Do not adjust your sets....still in twilight zone !!

Macca... I'd say the experiment is failing badly

It's the twilight zone

Gonna ( mean is ) a wet ol' day

Hope the fog stays then, might keep it under 5

I hadn't noticed Oscar tearing it up in the Magoo's bashing on the door for selection. His inclusion smacks more of experimentation. Thought we'd evolved from that.

Fog....bugger...we never play well in fog

Yes , quite interesting ( use this app too ) shame we aren't playing on paper

i fail to ever understand how weather plays into our hands

I dispute your premise Jack. The Hawthorn model displays the wisdom of bringing in players ONCE they're capable not before.

Sage advice Though he could just give me $25 and be better off by half !!

The plot thickens ... ie .... opportunities exist

Go Toiges...going nowhere anyways

Maldon and others, please understand it's not a question of whether a player is any good now, or later etc it's the process. If I was on a paddock I'd want my comrades to be the best there were. If others push them aside that's great. I don't want to be carrying noobs or having them fcuk things up and wrecking everyone's efforts. Let them learn, Learn and perfect (to a level ) so when they step over that line....they are ONE with the team....not it's chink !!

The more it changes .......

Don't bother Red..the foamers don't get it.

Rjay. The point is simply this , Hawthorn don't ever bring their talent on before warranted. They very very seldom bring in anyone who can't do a role as per Clarko's requirements. You put the Weed and Poos on you're good to go. That's not us. Should be ?

I'm not sure what Dunn's done to be done but he's done. Done it all himself has Dunn !!

Works for the Premiers ....not so novel huh

We're a long way from having too many of anything ( of quality )

A perfect hit