beelzebub

Id agree with this.... All other comparison is either moot or irrelevant but the 'how' of their application is valid ..imho. Happy for both to keep evolving. Give a box of tissues to any Saint acquaintances

? I wonder which is more rounded

They're different. Happy to have both.

Unusual abject observation. There's no bias.. just a view. I'm not sure you're right but possibly only hindsight might provide that. The idea that Gus is extraordinarily relevant and important is spot on I think. Gus plays football We need to play football We need Gus

Ist Gus ....ist gut ...zehr gut

3 cheers for Gus Hooray Hooray Hooray My god we've missed his footy nous

He's a shlt cook !!

Oh woe is me ....writes the revisionist golden one. As knobs go... he's in a class by himself.

Ah...the Devil .... Strangely I don't personally have an issue with a machine per se. It ALWAYS comes back to an individual's decision.. play/ not play ...drugs ..take not take. But there are subtle coercions applied to lure many an unsuspecting punter. I register your thoughts though. Devil out ...

And once again it all gravitates back to who knows what and when about who. There was a lot of anecdotal material doing rounds for yonks about Bomber. Some even made its way to this thread before ' finger waving' and such detered it. GFC had a pretty good idea... Yet what did they do? Seems they were more interested in the Silverware. EFC knew what was what..well the movers and shakers must have. This still raises many questions... especially of either complicity or conspiracy by some within AFL house.

In both instances might i suggest its the facilitation of either evil. Id be needed to be convinced that Bomber is some poor enduser victim ( only )

I am talking about Bomber Ernest. I dont give a flying f about his demise. I dont. His own predicament is testament sufficient..youd have thought. He also without doubt had influence upon decisions that affected the welfare of others. Mental health is a serious issue. Drugs dont help it. It would appear he self medicated in lieu of help. Pile all your excuses over there Ernie >>>>>> His kind are a blight.

He was in a position of trust and responsibilities. He had enormous resources and ample opportunities to make good judgement. He failed himself and others. I have not one single ounce of sympathy for such kind. I dont Ernest. He not only has brought misery upon himself, more fool him but without doubt he's affected others by design or decision. If a victim...hes a victim of his own stupidity. I care not for such. Ive seen the harm drugs can do. They are the scourge of our society. He's made Faustian deals which are now calling for payment. Such is life...Tough shlt.

Im rather amused how even now the spin doctors are painting Bomber as almost a victim. The man had choices. All those involved in either drugs or 'supplements' had choices. The 'coming back to bite you on the bvm' was only a matter of time.

Some in history need to be brought to account

Not hard to follow really Who owns Fox

I think Charlie might have put ol BJ right off his pretzels !!

I understand the sarcasm..not without cause. There are some Magistrates though whose determinations seem lame beyond belief. This is out in the public now and the various and nefarious players will be wanting to establish the "narrative" ( dont you just love that word...SOoooooo buzzy makes you fuzzy !!) Not all courts are created equal.

Setting the tone Establishing faux boundaries

Quite an interesting read https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/what-happens-next-for-mark-bomber-thompson-and-why-he-is-unlikely-to-face-jail/news-story/05f8309e627611affd5a2960df12c8c9 Possibly the 8-900 g of MDMA might alter this ?

Maybe it isn't. A number of teams over the journey ( Bomber , Robinson et al ) have mysteriously "re-invented" themselves over a summer.We arent talking a few kg of mass or tone...and certainly no one in these cases dropping weight. There's a real world out there Saty... you're most welcome to join it.

They most certainly do. We are though i would have thought able to discuss whats in the public domain without infringement ?

I was getting excited about Spargo...that ruins it lol

A work in progress. Il happily cede he is now stepping up into his role/ability. He's certainly had some cwap games but he was most ablely accompanied by more than a handful. He still makes some glaring mistakes. Tbh that's expected. Hopefully each one is a lesson.To suppose these dont occur if either arrogance of bias or ignorance of fact. I don't think anyone is particularly trying to assassinate Oscar but simply , in some instances, highlighting or pointing it out...i.e..the errors. Sometimes he'll just get beaten by a more adept player...or play. Stuff happens.